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    Default What tools do I need for this?

    http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Firepl...g-Rack-w-tools

    What tools would I need to bend the metal on this would rack? I want to build this for our cabin to clean up the messy wood and kindling we have laying on the hearth.

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    A cheap Harbor Freight bender would bend those big hoops and its like 85 bucks. That would be your cheapest tool besides a hammer and torch...Bob
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    AA,

    Thanks for that info. I was looking for a metal break all over instead of a bender. I went ahead and ordered that tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aametalmaster View Post
    A cheap Harbor Freight bender would bend those big hoops and its like 85 bucks. That would be your cheapest tool besides a hammer and torch...Bob
    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44094
    Bob- I don't see how the parts Bender will bend the Arch holding the Kindling

    Are you talking about the hoops on the handles?

    Need something more along the lines of a Roller for the Arched pieces.

    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36790

    Although this is limited to 1" wide Strap
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    Ed, you can do arches if you progressively bend small sections.

    Curly, For something like that, you might be better off getting a couple drop sections of pipe from the steel yard. Cut them in half and use the radius that provides. Unless you're real particular about the width, that would be the cheapest option.

    I would use a ring roller, but those aren't cheap either. Unless you want to add it to the arsenal (they are handy), the cut pipe would be the more economical approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishy Jim View Post
    Ed, you can do arches if you progressively bend small sections.

    Curly, For something like that, you might be better off getting a couple drop sections of pipe from the steel yard. Cut them in half and use the radius that provides. Unless you're real particular about the width, that would be the cheapest option.

    I would use a ring roller, but those aren't cheap either. Unless you want to add it to the arsenal (they are handy), the cut pipe would be the more economical approach.
    Jim,

    Yep, I got a few other things. Anything over $140 or so was $11.99 so I looked through there good and made sure I had a few things.

    1 36620-6VGA 1/2'' PICKET TWISTER ATTACHMENT 49.99 49.99
    1 36621-8VGA SCROLL ATTACHMENT FOR ITEM 31980 29.99 29.99
    1 44094-9VGA Benchtop Bar and Rod Bender 84.99 84.99
    4 46297-3VGA FIXED RIGHT ANGLE WELDING MAGNET 11.99 47.96
    1 36790-9VGA Metal Planetary Ring Roller 69.99 69.99
    1 45430-2VGA Pack of 10 4-1/2" Cut-off Wheels for Metal 5.99 5.99
    1 40324-3VGA 150 PC. HITCH CLIP ASSORTMENT 3.99 3.99
    1 771-4VGA Pack of 10 4" Grinding Wheels for Metal 4.99 4.99

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    Curly,
    Get a short drop of pipe in the diameter you want the radius of those bends...maybe 2" high or just a tad wider than the widest strap you envision bending. Tack the pipe to your table top. Tack a 1/2" or 5/8" bolt by the head to the center of the circle that the pipe now frames with enough thread to attach a section of strap, pipe or whatever you want to use as a bending fulcrum. Drill that strap, pipe, whatever to sit on top of the pipe with a handle end and a bending end sticking out past the rim of the pipe and loosely bolt to the top. Weld a piece of 5/8 or larger rod to the strap, pipe, whatever so that it is loosely butting up against the pipe with the strap you want to bend sitting between that section of rod and the pipe. Tack a second section of rod anywhere close to the pipe to use as a stop for the strap as it is being drawn around the pipe. Walk the handle you've bolted to the top of the pipe around the perimeter and you'll have your bent strap. When you're done, grind the jig off the table and go on to your next project. this will let you bend thicker and wider straping than the HF model...only limit is how much grunt you want to put into the work.
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    Broc,

    Thanks, I actually ordered that, a scroll attachment, and a twister thing when I ordered the bender. Might do some stuff along the lines of banasters on the porch of our log cabin. We have nice log (small logs) banasters now, but we have a lot of wood. I'm thinking some metal would really spice some things up around this place. Dang, I ain't even got power to the welder yet

    Thanks for the input

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    Quote Originally Posted by curly View Post

    What tools would I need to bend the metal on this would rack?


    Made me chuckle!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by benny365 View Post
    Made me chuckle!!
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