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    Default Systematic Welder

    A guy wants to sell me a Systematics Mig Welder very reasonable. He is very trustworthy and honest, I have no reason to doubt one word he ever said. He told me it is a very nice machine, will out perform anything I want to do with it. All I know is it is big and runs on 220. He is going to email me pics and all the information on it. Does anyone know anything about the Systematics ? I know Miller is the way to go but if I can get a steal on something, I would be a fool to pass it up IF it is a good quality machine.
    Ken

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    http://www.brweldingsupplies.com/par...roduct_id=1401

    Well at least B&R has consumables
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    I guess they took over the Air Products line. I was buying Air Products AP 250 feeders and the last one was a Systematics, different color and name but identicle to the Air Products feeders This isn't recent probably 25 years ago or more..
    Last edited by lars66; 08-16-2008 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Lousey spelling. Add to post

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    Well, I got the tech number for Systematics. After finding out what model it was (FM150) I called tech and got my answer. Machine is 30 years old and there are no available parts for it. Guess it will collect dust in the guys garage unless he wants to sell it for junk price.

    Got a good price on a Hobart Handler 187 today for $753, free shipping. Should be getting it within the week. Seeing how Hobart is owned by Miller, I feel better now setting my Miller & Hobart side by side.
    Ken

    What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

    Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
    Hobart Handler 187
    Dewalt Chop Saw
    4" Air Grinder
    Die Grinder
    Rigid Drill Press
    Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


    2009 FXDC

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBar View Post
    Well, I got the tech number for Systematics. After finding out what model it was (FM150) I called tech and got my answer. Machine is 30 years old and there are no available parts for it. Guess it will collect dust in the guys garage unless he wants to sell it for junk price.

    Got a good price on a Hobart Handler 187 today for $753, free shipping. Should be getting it within the week. Seeing how Hobart is owned by Miller, I feel better now setting my Miller & Hobart side by side.
    Kbar-

    This is one of the first hits when you type in HH187 on Google

    http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...187-MIG/Detail
    Ed Conley
    http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
    MM252
    MM211
    Passport Plus w/Spool Gun
    TA185
    Miller 125c Plasma 120v
    O/A set
    SO 2020 Bender
    You can call me Bacchus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    Kbar-

    This is one of the first hits when you type in HH187 on Google

    http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...187-MIG/Detail
    For a savings of only $60, it wouldn't be worth it to me. Something goes wrong in shipping or otherwise, I have to send it back to IL. Where I got mine, I can drive 10 mile and drop it off, plus Im dealing local with repairs, warranty, etc. Besides, I dont have an account there, dont use plastic either
    Ken

    What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

    Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
    Hobart Handler 187
    Dewalt Chop Saw
    4" Air Grinder
    Die Grinder
    Rigid Drill Press
    Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


    2009 FXDC

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBar View Post
    For a savings of only $60, it wouldn't be worth it to me. Something goes wrong in shipping or otherwise, I have to send it back to IL. Where I got mine, I can drive 10 mile and drop it off, plus Im dealing local with repairs, warranty, etc. Besides, I dont have an account there, dont use plastic either
    Good deal- since you said Free Shipping- I thought you had ordered on line.
    Ed Conley
    http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
    MM252
    MM211
    Passport Plus w/Spool Gun
    TA185
    Miller 125c Plasma 120v
    O/A set
    SO 2020 Bender
    You can call me Bacchus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    Good deal- since you said Free Shipping- I thought you had ordered on line.
    No, the company was out of stock so rather than get it shipped to their store, they are shipping it straight to me. In the long run, it saves them a trip. Now Im anxious to use it.
    Ken

    What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

    Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
    Hobart Handler 187
    Dewalt Chop Saw
    4" Air Grinder
    Die Grinder
    Rigid Drill Press
    Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


    2009 FXDC

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    Good choice. New HH187 vs. 30 year old welder? No question.

    Good luck. You'll like the HH187.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Sporty View Post
    Good choice. New HH187 vs. 30 year old welder? No question.

    Good luck. You'll like the HH187.
    Yeah but now I have to make a cart for it, boss asked me if I wanted one, I told him a welder builds them, they dont buy them.
    Ken

    What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

    Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
    Hobart Handler 187
    Dewalt Chop Saw
    4" Air Grinder
    Die Grinder
    Rigid Drill Press
    Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


    2009 FXDC

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