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    Default spray transfer???

    :every mig that i have used was short circuit trans but how do you achieve spray??? is it a different welder or a tecnique? im lost
    miller 330 abp
    everlast 225lx
    airco 250a tig
    hobart handler 125 mig
    o/a torches

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    I see you have a MM251....
    Get some .035 wire, go get a small bottle of 90/10 gas,
    crank up the voltage to somewhere north of 25-26 volts,
    and finally set the wire speed to about 550-600 ipm.
    Get a couple hunks of steel about 1/4 to 3/8 thick and
    set em up for a fillet weld.
    Aim the gun and pull the trigger...you will be spraying!
    I'm a lazy type, so google a few descriptions of the
    technical aspects regarding gases,and the voltages
    and amps needed to transition the various sized wires.
    Dave
    Edit...crank up the gas flow to maybe 35-40cfh also

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM117 View Post
    I see you have a MM251....
    Get some .035 wire, go get a small bottle of 90/10 gas,
    crank up the voltage to somewhere north of 25-26 volts,
    and finally set the wire speed to about 550-600 ipm.
    Get a couple hunks of steel about 1/4 to 3/8 thick and
    set em up for a fillet weld.
    Aim the gun and pull the trigger...you will be spraying!
    I'm a lazy type, so google a few descriptions of the
    technical aspects regarding gases,and the voltages
    and amps needed to transition the various sized wires.
    Dave
    Edit...crank up the gas flow to maybe 35-40cfh also
    im running .035 now but why cant you use 75/25 or 100% argon?
    miller 330 abp
    everlast 225lx
    airco 250a tig
    hobart handler 125 mig
    o/a torches

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    Can't tell you the exact reasons on the gas mixes.
    You need at least 80% argon, never tried straight
    argon?
    There are other common spray mixes using 95-98 percent argon
    and the balance is O2. The reason I like the 90/10 is it
    also short-arcs well and I don't have to switch bottles around as
    much.
    Dave P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM117 View Post
    Can't tell you the exact reasons on the gas mixes.
    You need at least 80% argon, never tried straight
    argon?
    There are other common spray mixes using 95-98 percent argon
    and the balance is O2. The reason I like the 90/10 is it
    also short-arcs well and I don't have to switch bottles around as
    much.
    Dave P.
    oh i will look into that
    miller 330 abp
    everlast 225lx
    airco 250a tig
    hobart handler 125 mig
    o/a torches

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    Spray arc requires an argon rich gas, but mild steel and 100% argon are not the best MIG mix. You can spray with pure argon, but a little COČ helps smooth out the arc very much. Argon with 2% to 10% COČ will give you good results.

    Spray transfer occurs at high current and voltage. The numbers that FM117 provided should work. If it won't go into spray, crank up the wire feed a bit. Hold about a 3/4" (yeah, long is right) stickout. Travel speed is about twice as fast as short-arc. It sounds like escaping air - a nice hiss! I never turn up the shielding gas. Had good luck just leaving it at 20-CFH.

    Hank
    ...from the Gadget Garage
    Millermatic 210 w/3035, BWE
    Handler 210 w/DP3035
    TA185TSW
    Victor O/A "J" series, SuperRange

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    Weld some Aluminum, that will be all Argon and spray mode, I love the sound!

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