Eric Medlens death was a freak deal, about a quarter of the slick came apart, so the tire/wheel was out of balance by at least 10lbs. When this happened the car lost traction, the engine spun the tires to 300+mph and he was shaken to death. They changed the roll cages. I think if the same tire failure happens again, you will have the same result.
John Forces wreck was due to hardened 4130 tubing being used in the chassis, when they are suppose to use 4130N. There were several chassis that cracked last year due to use of the same tubing. The other teams just got lucky and noticed the cracks.
Scott Kalittas death was after an engine EXPLOSION, the engine was not running. Ignition kill would not have changed anything. Scott did deploy the parachutes but they burned up and did not open. Remote parachute release won't change anything if they burn up. The car hit a pole for the catch net at the end of the track. There is no reason on GOD's green earth for a pole to be in any possible path of a car traveling at that speed.
I don't think the aircraft cable/tailhook idea works either. For one they don't always work on aircraft carriers, my understanding is something like 75%. Secondly if you decelerate too fast you die anyway. The current chassis would be ripped apart by such a device.
Sorry for the long post.
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07-07-2008, 12:01 PM #21
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07-07-2008, 03:00 PM #22
So I would presume that all you guys have seen that NHRA has started 1000ft racing now in the Fuel class cars.
So I would say they have now popped their heads out
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07-07-2008, 04:24 PM #23
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Ever hear of the 1/8 mile ...
I think what ever keeps the drivers coming back each weekend, while pushing the edge, is ok with me.
have they outlawed auto stage? always thought the driver should pull the trigger and feather the throttle. Car starts jumpin, throttle would pull off or spin em.
The whole dare devel deal, that's more for hollywood pictures than racin.
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(once watched a guy in an olds pull a couple of wheels up at 3/4 track and go through the gates featherin a wheelie. If I had not seen the deal, I would not have believed it. guy I know walked me over for the view, he said, and i quote, don't blink. saturday night guys... down south)Last edited by trstek; 07-07-2008 at 04:29 PM.
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07-07-2008, 08:40 PM #24
The header for this rant is unappealing to me, however. The reason racing began in its infancy was to expant the range of the possible. To think bigger and go farther faster and quicker. These reaches have from time to time made extreme consequences. Ask Alex Zanardi, Paralized and he still races, why because he loves it so very much that he would have rather died than not race. Do you believe that there is no thrill that drives these men. I met Scott Brayton and he was a terriffic man, his children miss him,,,but he did what he loved. Same for Ayrton Senna, Gordon Smiley, Mark Donahue and all the others. Even other racing series deal with these issues and that is the price that is paid for the lives they lead.
Its dangerous, and that is the draw in the first place, same for mountain climbing, skydiving, and any of a dozen other risky things people do for a thrill.
I get angry when people blame it on the series, there is danger involved,,,period!!!! Strap into a metal chassis with over 7000 horsepower and not expect the possiblility of something terribly wrong happening. Get real that is the draw in the first place.
God Bless The racers souls that have passed, and God bless those still driving.
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07-08-2008, 07:25 AM #25
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People routinely get on a motorcycles where thousands are killed and injured, not a second thought but one guy in a race car tanks it and its a national tragedy.
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07-08-2008, 11:48 AM #26
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Racers know the risks. Why is it that people always have to have someone to blame?
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07-09-2008, 12:43 PM #27
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Racers know the risks, but as a former crew member and chief, I always looked to minmize the risk and felt I had an obligation to my team, self, and other competitors, to bring the best and safest car I could field to the track, perform my best work in repair and tuning, and not to p--- on the dogs and call in the fire when mechanical failures or accidents occurred and say its just racing. The search shouldn't be for the scapegoat but the prevention of the occurence from ever happening again. Be safe out there.
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07-09-2008, 03:49 PM #28
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IMHO. This guy has the best answer.
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07-09-2008, 06:21 PM #29
I disagree. the problem isnt the speed in most cases. 300 or 330 you hit a pole, your not going to make it. Being a drag racer myself, and having raced at englishtown as my "home" track, I never liked it. It's not a terribly short runoff area, but it is short. I never liked it I've been to several tracks with nothing behind the track but open space, sand or hay fields... and thats smart. Not tree's, concrete barriers, poles or what ever else some tracks have. I hit the sand once, my brakes failed and it was the scariest thing ever, but I didnt even get a scratch on me or the car. Granted top fuel'ers travel much faster, but 1000 ft, or limiting to 300 mph doesnt help when there are obstructions in your path.. If there isnt room for the runoff, knock the track off the NHRA list until they comply, or dont hold it there at all.
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07-09-2008, 08:35 PM #30
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I disagree. the problem isnt the speed in most cases. 300 or 330 you hit a pole, your not going to make it. Being a drag racer myself, and having raced at englishtown as my "home" track, I never liked it. It's not a terribly short runoff area, but it is short. I never liked it I've been to several tracks with nothing behind the track but open space, sand or hay fields... and thats smart. Not tree's, concrete barriers, poles or what ever else some tracks have. I hit the sand once, my brakes failed and it was the scariest thing ever, but I didnt even get a scratch on me or the car. Granted top fuel'ers travel much faster, but 1000 ft, or limiting to 300 mph doesnt help when there are obstructions in your path.. If there isnt room for the runoff, knock the track off the NHRA list until they comply, or dont hold it there at all.
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seems simple enough, so why dose it not happen ??? there are a lot of simple things to makethe hole setup safer, this wont stop exploading heads. but fule stops will keep flames to a minimum, didnt they go to requiring flex line from the tank. little things with little to no lbs. could make it a lot safer, not safe, but safer.
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