I got some Crown Royal Kirkrod a few years back just to try it out. But i haven't found anything i couldn't weld with my spoolgun so i never used it, until today. I took some 1 1/2" OD alum pipe cut lengthwise and vise gripped it back together with a small gap prob equal to the sawblade. Then i torch welded it with the RK rod and it welded great. I couldn't hand break the parts when i was done...Bob
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05-28-2007, 11:33 AM #1
Alum pot metal rod and a torch
Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
Metal Master Fab Salem, Oh 44460
Birthplace of the Silver & Deming Drill
1999 MM185 w/185 Spoolgun,1986 Thunderbolt AC/DC
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05-28-2007, 12:51 PM #2
brazing rod
Be careful using that zinc filler. And also be careful calling it welding, as its not even close. The base metal tends to absorb some of the zinc at temperature and depending on the alloy, makes the base metal brittle. Its an OK emergency BRAZING rod or on pot metal castings, but I wouldnt rely on it for anything. I see a lot of aluminum car bodies with that garbage on them, and I end up cutting out the entire area to be able to gas weld it back up again. I think its mostly sold at flea markets by the equivelant of modern day gypsys, unfortunately a lot of people believe them.
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05-28-2007, 01:32 PM #3
there is a site that sells several diferent kinds of rods for aluminum joining but its realy much more like brazing than actualy welding. torch or TIG would be the best long term structural option but soem things it would be ok for a non strees repair or as a temperary fix knowing the temp. fix could end upo making the fix much more complicateed.
i'll see if i can find the link to the site , they can send you out some good info on it.
HF also sells a similer aluminum brazing rod, again not welding just brazing.thanks for the help
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hope i helped
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05-28-2007, 02:53 PM #4
Thanks guys, i wouldn't trade my spoolgun in for it, but i have seen some parts fixed with it that looked good. Nothing structrual just junk castings...Bob
Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
Metal Master Fab Salem, Oh 44460
Birthplace of the Silver & Deming Drill
1999 MM185 w/185 Spoolgun,1986 Thunderbolt AC/DC
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05-28-2007, 03:21 PM #5
yep , thats about where its best suited i would think. they do make some prity impressive claims but i think i would only use it like ya said quick nonstructural fixes.
thanks for the help
......or..........
hope i helped
feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat.
james@newyorkmetalart.com
summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
JAMES
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05-28-2007, 09:29 PM #6
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I got some HTS2000 alum brazing rod. I built up some corrosion on a water pump outlet and it seemed to me to hold well. i tried it on some 18ga 3003 al and had a little less luck, but I think it'll work for small stuff. Now, the trouble is I have an Allard nose cowl with some stress cracks that a guy wants me to try to fix. I don't know what alloy it is. but its been bondoed and sanded to paper thin thickness. I don't think I'd do too well with the tig because its so dirty and thin. Don't want to have to replace the whole piece on the car.
makoman1860, suggestions? You don't like the brazing for small (less than 1") cracks?



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