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    Default Idling a Machine

    Will Idling a Miller Machine have any effect on its lifespan?

    I use my Syncrowave 200 as a 115V/15A power source for 2-3 hours a day (not burning some poor unfortunate piece of aluminum) to run grinders, drills, a lathe, and a vacuum. Will this have any negative effect on the life of the machine?
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    Why don't you unplug it then use that outlet to plug in your vacum/lathe/etc?
    Hee hee....if you're like me, you go back and forth between projects, that's why you do what you do. My personal opinion, would be: yes, wearing down the machine. I'm not sure HOW much of the machine its hurting, but I would guess the motherboard is being used....maybe a miller tech can chime in and say if it does hurt the mb or not...
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    Uhhh........Bert We are talking about a 220 machine that has a really big plug
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    Being it's a transformer type machine. The transformer is ready to weld all the time the machine is on. Transformers in general loose capacity over their lifetime. That said it will take years maybe decades for the machine to degrade to a noticeable point. We had a HH135 and when it was new it would weld 1/4" plate in a single pass well fifteen years later after being run at full throttle most of the time over heated a few times, it's lucky to weld 1/8" plate in a single pass.
    So best advice is to shut it down when not in use.
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    Bert We are talking about a 220 machine that has a really big plug
    Oops, my bad
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    If you don't have to turn the welder on to use the 120 outlet, witch I don't think you do, it should not hurt any thing. I never used the 120 outlet on my Sync 250 so I don't know for sure if the welder needs to be switched on to use it.
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    burninbriar: You made me go out in the COLD garage and look. The Sync250 outlets aren't hot unless the welder is turned on. And if the x-formers suck electicity as rumored, I'd find another outlet.
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    makes sense that you would have to have the machine on, power going in is 220 and the power going out is 110.
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    I'm trying to figure out why someone would spend money on electricity to run that Synchrowave when all that is needed in an extension cord

    What am I missing here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird455 View Post
    Will Idling a Miller Machine have any effect on its lifespan?

    I use my Syncrowave 200 as a 115V/15A power source for 2-3 hours a day (not burning some poor unfortunate piece of aluminum) to run grinders, drills, a lathe, and a vacuum. Will this have any negative effect on the life of the machine?

    You've got alot of wierd answers here, but the end result of this action is no, you will not cause problems with this machine, even if your run off your 115vac 12 hrs a day / 7 days a week.

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