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  1. #21
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    These guys have gave you alot of sound advice. Gotta walk before you can run. Having said that, dont be discouraged, get a welding job somewhere and plan on starting your own busines someday. Do small jobs at home for friends and just keep looking. I agree with the other guys. Are the grants free? in other words you dont have to pay it back? I'd still do lots of planning, work awhile then make a go of it


    Good luck
    Scott
    HMW [Heavy Metal welding]

  2. #22
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    The secret to business if there is one, is, its the business that you turn down. If you get in over your head, you will loose every time.

    without knowing you, your skills, your connections, your business sense, its hard to say if you can make a go of it. You might be able to or you might not.

    Grants if you can get them will launch you into business, you will need paying customers to stay in business. That is where it starts, gets a bit more complex from there.

    An old painter once told me, I loose a little on each job, but it is ok, because I make it up in volume.

    Get work that you know you can do well for a fair price, and get paid in a timely mannor. go from there.

    Insurance up, so you don't skrew up the rest of your life if something goes bad. And sometimes things do go bad, even if you do everything right. That is what they call risk.

    Good luck.

  3. #23
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    Woogawerlder,

    I'm with Bmxin^Bjorn use a trailer. Get one that is enclosed you can lock your equipment up. It's also out of the weather. Another thing to think about if you work for someone esle first chances are you never will work for yourself. Besides that just think of the bill board you can have sides of trailer!!


    Keep on burning
    Larry
    Last edited by LarryM; 05-21-2007 at 10:55 PM.
    Miller Bobcat 250
    Try not to spend $10.00 worth time $.10 job

  4. #24
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    Default U Will Never Be Your Own Boss

    Unless U Retire U Will Never Be Ur Own Boss
    If You Work For Urself U Will Have A Boss Its Called (((customer)))

  5. #25
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    I have run my own rig/shop for 5 years now and still have to work sundays and nights.The big thing I have seen with guys fresh out of school is just not enough exp. in the craft.If you run a rig-pipe,equipment repair,structural-whatever- you will do much more than run beads.you need to learn how to rig,how to use dogs,what a roller shoe is,etc,etc,etc.the best thing to do is to learn on other people dime,by the hour.Start in a job that you can really hone your welding(pipe),then move on to a shop or job that offers somthing else to learn while you earn.I would love to hire a guy who could tig,mig, stick ,do lay out and didnt mind having to work a shovel once i a while,but welders tend to be babies.Once you have a grasp on most of the things a jobsite could throw at you and you still want to work 70+ hours a week get a truck,a trailer looks kinda part timer to most the people I deal with and if you want pipeline work they wont allow a trailer.You can make it,but the work is hard enough with out having the stress of a new buisness on your head.

  6. #26
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    I'd say get a job and then run your buisness on the side at the same time. When I first started welding I thought thats all I would need to do or know how to do for that matter. Not the case, I do rigging, joint prep., grinding (alot more to it than you think), fix mechanical issuse (some times I feel more like a mechanic), on the spot engineering, etc... Welding is more a means to complete a job rather than an actual job. I found that being a welder is far more than just welding, your more of a frabricator/metal repair specailist than any thing and that requires far more than welding. I to received a far above standard education and it still isn't enough. The only education that sufices in this industry for going out on your own is exp. I work full time and I'm curently in the process of starting a rig. By working full time you don't have to worry about not having enough work. If buisness drops you still have a paycheck atleast not to mention benifets. Working for youself means eather no health insurence or super expensive health insurince with a big fat premium. And I'd have to agree with everyone else about building up a good base of contacts before going out on your own. It makes a huge diference. What ever you do though I wish you the best of luck.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-GMAW View Post
    I found that being a welder is far more than just welding, your more of a frabricator/metal repair specailist than any thing and that requires far more than welding..
    This is exactly right. There's so much more to learn than welding you just simply can't cover it all in school; no way!

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    get a truck,a trailer looks kinda part timer to most the people I deal with and if you want pipeline work they wont allow a trailer.
    Eric Carroll makes a good point here, all the shops and field work is always done out of a truck. an old bread truck might be an option, good add space and lockability but looks more like its a welding rig, not a bunch of stuff thrown on at the last minuit to go do a job. a trailor looks like you are not willing to comitt a vehickle to the job. "if you were sereous about being a welder you would make it permanant, not a tow behind when you need or want it." is how its going to be seen to many.
    at the same time you have to do what you can do and make do with it till other options arize.
    good luck i hope the best for ya.

    LarryM
    welcome to the site. always good to have more people. sorry i dissagree with your first post please dont take it personal, many dissagree its the only way to get more than one opinion, your's may fit him better than mine. after all you know what they say about optionons.
    welcome
    thanks for the help
    ......or..........
    hope i helped

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  9. #29
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    Default So much wisdom in such a small space!!!!!!!

    woogawelder,

    Listen to what these guys are telling you, take little steps in your approach in the business world. Get a job to gain the all to valuable experience needed to survive in this world. Buying a welder and thinking you are going to make it is a very unrealistic theory, being a weldor is just a very small part of the actual business you will be doing, Get a job in a machine shop if at all possible, the fabrication skills you will gain are an invaluable experience.

    In my daily routine, I have to answer the phones, answer e-mails, deal with walk in customers, draw up plans and blueprints, order materials, deal with other contractors, estimate projects, do the accounting and book keeping, file papers, deal with insurance issues, do a bank run, sit down and go through the bills, bill out completed jobs, make coffee, sweep the floors, clean the office, take out the trash etc...etc...etc... and in my spare time actually get some work accomplished. Oh, and did I mention everything is on a dead line and everyone thinks their project is more important than the others.

    Wanting to be your own boss does have it's rewards, but it's no picnic either, just some food for thought. Dave

    P.S. I know many people who said they could get grants, but don't know any who actually did, they are harder to get than you think.
    If necessity is the Mother of Invention, I must be the Father of Desperation!

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  10. #30
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    Default Be your own boss

    Always be positive, keep focused, work hard and avoid all negative information.
    Always carry out your best workmanship and be professional.
    Never give credit unless your are 100% sure you will be paid.
    There’s always someone out there ready to screw you.

    Good Luck and best wishes Kim .........

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