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    Default which wire feeder?

    i am thinking about investing in a portable wire feeder, and after reading all the info on the rc feeder and the vs feeder i am trying to figure out which is best for my situations. One day may be fixing constuction equip, next day doing a 12 inch waterline, never know whats next out in the field. iI have a trailblazer 302, which one will work best with the least amount of extra equip,ie control boxes ,cables, just more or less plug it in and spend less time hooking up other cables, control boxes, just more crap to break down or get damaged and add to the cost of owning a portable wire feeder.Hey dda52 hows the weather down that way ,i notice you have a rc feeder, whats your opinion?
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    I have the same set-up as you with a Trailblazer 302 and I run a suitcase 8RC. It's set up right now with .035" Mig wire and I use it all the time in the shop. I have a spool of NR-211 innershield that also runs great through it. I still need to get a gun an drive rolls for some bigger flux cored wire (the .035" doesn't cut it sometimes). The great thing about using the Miller suitcase is being able to plug it into the remote and control the voltage from the feeder instead of going back to the welder. When you buy one though, you will need a remote extension. I bought a 50' extension brand new for about $250

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    This must be a different "shade tree welder" than the one we're used to! Ron's already got everything!

    Anyway, do you plan on the capability for doing short-circuit GMAW on thinner material? Or mostly FCAW in field conditions? The RC feeders will do it all (with more cables), while the VS feeders are best for the latter, and much simpler and hardier.

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    Gettin' hot, Shade. A tree would be nice where I was today.


    I use both the VS and RC, mainly because it is easier to just set one up for a wire and leave it. I guess I am getting lazy in my old age.

    If I had to choose between the RC and VS, and only keep one, it would be the RC. As Mac said, it will do it all.....as long as you are within 75' of the machine. I have run both VS feeders with .035 solid and C-25 on 1/8 MS. They both performed flawlessly. That was at 17vdc. At 15vdc, the contactor will cut out, so that will limit the low end. That isn't a factor with the RC. Yes, running the extra cable is a big pain, but then so is that freakin' voltage sensing clip. The VS feeders are fairly sensitive to bad connections. Sometimes, you spend more time getting a good connection with the clip, than actually welding.

    How far away from San Antonio are you? I'd let you run them side by side to see what you think.
    Don


    '06 Trailblazer 302
    '06 12RC feeder
    Super S-32P feeder

    HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
    Esab Multimaster 260
    Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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    just wondering would some thing like a passport work or is the low amp top end a problem ?? just wondering as it wouod seem lik just running an extention cord would be nice. probly no help to ya but i'm cureous what you guys with then feeder think about the passport as an option and why the feeder is a better choice??
    thanks for the help
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    hope i helped

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    For me, having one unit that will run .023 on thin stuff and then turn around and burn .045 solid or 1/16 or 5/65 FC at 300 plus amps is the better way. If I didn't have the TB, then maybe a Passport might be a better feeder.
    Don


    '06 Trailblazer 302
    '06 12RC feeder
    Super S-32P feeder

    HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
    Esab Multimaster 260
    Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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    so its a top end amp thing, cool i was just wondering. i know the passport is limited on the top end so running it off the TB could be a disadvantage over the feeder.
    thanks for taking the time to give an opinion. sorry to side-track the post.
    thanks for the help
    ......or..........
    hope i helped

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    i have a pow-con feeder that was probably some sort of prototype. no one has seen one b4. im running .072 232 innershield wire at 24.3 volts on a 302. dont know what it will run on 301 yet but i use 24.5 volts on tb 251. this is a very fast and strong wire. its almost same size as 3/32 lo/hy rod. (sparklers). im capable of outwelding stick 5 to 1 now. that 211 wire is fine for 1 pass. you cant stack welds with it it will crack. ive pulled my partners welds loose on other side and he was welding at same time i was and i broke everyone of his

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    Yeah, I need another wirefeeder to set-up and run 5/64" NR-232 wire. The 211 is only really good for the thinner stuff espeically when it's only .035" dia wire.

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    Default wire feders

    sounds like the rc feeder is the better of the two, more versatile, i guess no way around the cables. Thanks for the info gang. Hey dda52 about 140 miles or so.
    ;
    /22x45 concrete slab with 2 overhead cranes(trolley style with electric hoist, huge shade tree to weld under
    33x33 enclosed shop when its to cold or windy outside
    miller 210
    miller 875 plasma
    victor oxy/accet
    unihydro 45ton ironworker
    miller 180 tig
    ole lincoln ac/dc buzzbox
    milwaukee power tools
    and everything in between
    2007 trailblazer 302
    Bailiegh 210 miter saw-2008
    Beer Fridge
    6000# cat forklift
    36" port-a-cool fan
    Dake G-75 Belt grinder
    3035 Spoolgun

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