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    Does anyone here use any form of powder coationg. I have sent materal out to be powder coated but I would like to start doing it myself. I have checked a few sites but the booths and ovens are way to expensive for me to purchase know. Has anyone tried just using a gun an some other sourse of draying system?

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    I used to do powder coating a few years ago, its the easiest kind of painting there is. and durable. How big of items are you going to paint? an old cook stove oven works great for small things, and you can buy special heat lights for big stuff the only draw back to lights is the heat isn't concentrated enough some spots will get hotter than others. and temp. is the key to good powder coat. if heat isn,t consistent then color isn't either lighter colors would probly be fine. but like black the kind we used anyway the gloss depends on temp. cooler temps it would turn out satin or almost flat higher temps would be glossy, so it depends mostly on quality you want and size you will paint. If you decide to try lights you can get them at Eastwood.com
    can buy paint there also. Hope somthing here helps.
    sigpichttp://www.sharpsiron.com

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    • #3
      I will mainly be using it for some railings ranging from 3-6 ft.
      What type of system would work?

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      • #4
        This might be worth checking into, http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes

        Don't know how good it would be for your purpose, do know that it is something fairly new for Sears. And it is a Craftsman, or Crapsman, depending on your point of view!
        Flash me! I'm a welder.

        American by birth, Union by choice! Boilermakers Local 60

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        • #5
          I talked to a good clerk at Sears. Always go to him (Honest). Had a couple of guys buy the Sears gun, and absolutely LOVE IT!!! Only making small parts though and sticking it in a 2nd hand oven. I heard the powder has a short shelf life and needs to be bought vacum packed. Doesn't look like the Sears bags are vacum packed...
          ***my 2 cents****
          I'm not late...
          I'm just on Hawaiian Time

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          • #6
            thanks for the links

            I do alot of small ornamental items for a local garden club and one of the concerns is about how long the paint will last being exposed to the elements and the only powder coater in my area is outragous in his prices. I had thought about getting some equipment to do it myself but always thought it would be too expensive to justify buying commercial equipment. These links are just what I was looking for. Thanks again Dave
            If necessity is the Mother of Invention, I must be the Father of Desperation!

            sigpicJohn Blewett III 10-22-73 to 8-16-07
            Another racing great gone but not to be forgotten.http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...modified&hl=en

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            • #7
              I get my tracksoverhead.com bridges powdercoated local and it's a great process but the bridges are indoors.
              I made thousands of shepherd hooks and other ornamental iron fence parts for outdoor use and the powdercoat didn't meet my quality control standards. Where the parts were scrolled and welded the powdercoat didn't flow back into the nooks and crannies and will rust over time. I also painted some of the parts with both latex and oil base paint and i can say that after 5 years of weather all the items held up about the same. The powdercoated parts have lost the gloss it once had but so did the other parts. Plus the powdercoated parts are hard to repair in the field. Just my thoughts...Bob
              Bob Wright

              Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
              http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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              • #8
                powder coat equipment

                I am curious if any one has used these small powder coat systems mentioned in the above posts. I want to know if they are really worth it or if I should continue dealing with the local thief (powder coater) at 90.00 per foot. thanks Dave
                If necessity is the Mother of Invention, I must be the Father of Desperation!

                sigpicJohn Blewett III 10-22-73 to 8-16-07
                Another racing great gone but not to be forgotten.http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...modified&hl=en

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                • #9
                  Look here at the Caswell Plating, tons of info on power coating and how to build your oven.

                  http://forum.caswellplating.com/

                  http://forum.caswellplating.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18



                  Hope this helps...
                  http://www.jhchoppers.com

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                  • #10
                    Jhc

                    Thanks alot for that link, I found more info on there than I'll ever be able to use,much like this site. thanks again Dave
                    If necessity is the Mother of Invention, I must be the Father of Desperation!

                    sigpicJohn Blewett III 10-22-73 to 8-16-07
                    Another racing great gone but not to be forgotten.http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...modified&hl=en

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                    • #11
                      Jhchoppers

                      By the way checked your web site too. Nice stuff. I wish I had the artistic ability you bike builders have. I mean each and every bike is more than a machine, it's a flat out piece of art. Also I am going to make a larger version of the roller on your tools page. I want to try building my own trailer fenders in the near future. Thanks again for the info. Dave
                      If necessity is the Mother of Invention, I must be the Father of Desperation!

                      sigpicJohn Blewett III 10-22-73 to 8-16-07
                      Another racing great gone but not to be forgotten.http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...modified&hl=en

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dabar39 View Post
                        By the way checked your web site too. Nice stuff. I wish I had the artistic ability you bike builders have. I mean each and every bike is more than a machine, it's a flat out piece of art. Also I am going to make a larger version of the roller on your tools page. I want to try building my own trailer fenders in the near future. Thanks again for the info. Dave
                        Your welcome, and thanks for the compliments....
                        http://www.jhchoppers.com

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dabar39 View Post
                          I am curious if any one has used these small powder coat systems mentioned in the above posts. I want to know if they are really worth it or if I should continue dealing with the local thief (powder coater) at 90.00 per foot. thanks Dave
                          Do mean you are being charged $90.00 a foot for powder coating?For 3 foot tall rails I pay about $7-$9 a foot.I just got a qoute for a 6 foot tall fence at $ 10.00 /Foot. I have used powdercoated parts out side alot and think the durability is far better than paint.I try to do a test fit of rails before they go to the p.c. to keep re-work to a minimum,but have done a alot of touch-ups with some spray can enamel.The powder is is electrostaticly applied so if it is done right coverage is not a problem.

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                          • #14
                            90.00 per foot

                            Yes, I said $90.00 per foot on average for railings, meaning 1' wide x 4' tall. I had a customer that wanted a trailer frame powder coated, it was a 5'x10' utility trailer. The frame is just under 60' of 2x3x3/16" angle and the top rails less than 20' of 1 1/2 angle plus the two fenders measuring 9" x 32". They price quote was for $750.00. There is only one guy here local and his price is between $9-$12 per linear foot of material. Not to mention the price if it's not pre preped for them. They get $15 per linear foot or more if they have to do anything more than wipe the parts down before coating. Now you see why I want to find out about doing it myself?
                            The next closest powder coating shop is about 30 or so miles in either direction, we don't have to many options in this area. Dave
                            If necessity is the Mother of Invention, I must be the Father of Desperation!

                            sigpicJohn Blewett III 10-22-73 to 8-16-07
                            Another racing great gone but not to be forgotten.http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...modified&hl=en

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                            • #15
                              With what pics JHC sent you, looks like you could make that yourself also, whatever size to suit your needs! Of course, get too good at it, then all the business that you get, you may have less time for welding! I know some guys in Hawaii send out their parts. Some use portable heat lamps, and some have pros do it (though I never heard of anyone charging THAT much!
                              We all know you can build anything from nothing, make your own ovens from the pics
                              I'm not late...
                              I'm just on Hawaiian Time

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