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  • #31
    Eric I agree with what you say but the difference is a piercing can get caught on something. A boob job is a bit difference your boobs cant get caught on something there in your skin. Tattoos are the same you cant harm yourself with them beisdes ift hey get infected after you get them. But I do want this job very bad and dam it im going to do what ever it takes.
    Thanks for reading I hope my post helped

    Ryan

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    • #32
      I like your ability to understand what it takes to start a new career. I think most owners of shops are middle age to older and have gone through the things you want to do but now that they're more mature, they realize it doesn't cut it in the real world. The only other thing that I'll suggest to you is take spelling seriously. As you come up through the ranks, you may have to write reports and for that spelling is very important. Good luck. You've shown yourself to have a good head on your shoulders.

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      • #33
        I am actually very sorry about my spelling mistakes. I'm not very good at spelling I use computers and spell check works wonders for me. Ill start using it for this site as well.
        Thanks for reading I hope my post helped

        Ryan

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        • #34
          my boobjob remark was about body mods and how people think one is ok and others are crazy.if you jewerly is that close to danger you may need to re-think you work methods.when I was 12 I saw a guy with a biker beard get his face twisted up in a 1/2 drill with an auger bit on it.There is a new generation coming into the work place that doesnt take such a hostile attitude towards people that look different from them.One of the good things about working with you hands is the enviorment is not as straight laced as an office or a retail setting.

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          • #35
            Wearing metal & Tats

            This one is much harder to respond to then I thought. Tat's are usually tasteful or mean something to the person getting rivited by a needle with ink.

            Piercings are an "in-your-face" (no pun intended) statement. They tell me you are immature, and under-educated. You do not have interpersonal skills, nor do you have self esteem.

            No I would not hire you - you are a walking freak show that you choose to live, I do not need to introduce you into my workforce.


            sjmiller

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            • #36
              I dont think anywere really will. Ill just have to live without them during the day and have them after the holes dont close over that easy but If that bothers me **** I might just have to lose them.
              Thanks for reading I hope my post helped

              Ryan

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              • #37
                Originally posted by sjmiller View Post
                This one is much harder to respond to then I thought. Tat's are usually tasteful or mean something to the person getting rivited by a needle with ink.

                Piercings are an "in-your-face" (no pun intended) statement. They tell me you are immature, and under-educated. You do not have interpersonal skills, nor do you have self esteem.

                No I would not hire you - you are a walking freak show that you choose to live, I do not need to introduce you into my workforce.


                sjmiller
                Are you for real?How old are you?Where is the freakshow,undereducated line drawn? I dont really like most facial piercings but have never thought "that person has no self esteem."Is the only way to be mature,appear smart and get a job by looking like the average person that does your chosen job?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Eric Carroll View Post
                  "Is the only way to be mature,appear smart and get a job by looking like the average person that does your chosen job?

                  In a predominatly conservative society where first impressions are so important & part of our human nature, and the percieved image of a company is a valuable/tangible item- especially to it's owner.......

                  Yep... Be it right, wrong, or indifferent......
                  That's about 99% true.

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                  Last edited by Winger Ed.; 02-27-2007, 01:20 AM.
                  "Gone are the days of wooden ships, and Iron men.
                  I doubt we'll see either of their likes again".

                  Circa 1920.
                  Author:
                  Unknown US Coast Guard unit Commander.

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                  • #39
                    I got my ear pierced when I was about 6 years old. I took it out 10 years ago and the hole still has not fully closed. As long as your holes are not new they should be able to go 8 hours with no ring/bar in them. the only exception would be maybe your lip and tongue the mouth heals really fast.

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                    • #40
                      looks

                      My ins. co. would not let me hire any one with any thing that can be cought on,and injured,,Some even have it for wedding rings,,Jack

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Eric Carroll View Post
                        "Is the only way to be mature,appear smart and get a job by looking like the average person that does your chosen job?
                        I can tell you this, one of the things people are told to do BEFORE going to a job interview is to go and scout out your potential employer. See how people in that company dress and when you go for your interview dress as they do.

                        So the answer to your question is YES. An interview is not the place to make a fashion statement.

                        Here is what one online employment service says about dressing for an interview.

                        Trades

                        John Coffey worked as a factory production manager for years before becoming a career coach. His take on appropriate attire for an interview in the trades: Business casual.

                        "For men, this might be a nice pair of Dockers and a buttoned shirt, along with well-kept and polished shoes," says Coffey, career success officer for Winning Careers in Woodbury, Minnesota. "The same goes for women -- nice slacks and a professional business top. I think a suit or sports jacket for this type of work is overkill."

                        Of course, one industry's excess is another industry's underdressed. So don't be afraid to ask, because no matter what, "your packaging counts," says Holland.

                        That packaging includes the little things. "The details matter," says Mary Lou Andre, president of Needham, Massachusetts-based Organization by Design and author of Ready to Wear: An Expert's Guide to Choosing and Using Your Wardrobe. For example, shoes "should be in excellent condition, as should totes and outerwear."

                        "You really never do get a second chance to make a good first impression," Andre stresses. "By investing some time and money in creating a suitable interview wardrobe, you will invite others to easily invest back in you."
                        The go on to publish a " 10 Interview Fashion Blunders " and the cover jewelry. Following is quote from their website ...

                        Jewelry That Jangles: Don't wear more than two rings per hand or one earring per ear. And no face jewelry or ankle bracelets allowed.
                        Actually this is all pretty much standard interview knowledge.

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                        • #42
                          I understand what is the "norm" but hate to hear a young person told the only way to make it is to wear the appropriate "costume".You can make your way as long as you are good at it and work hard.If I could hire a dependable,hard working kid who didnt mind working weekends,I wouldnt care what was in his face.The saftey thing is 99% crap,how many time have you had you watch almost hurt you?Rings on fingers are definitely dangerous because your fingers engage every thing you work on,but your lip?your ear?I could make up reasons that nascar stickers all over you windows are dangerous but really I just dont like them.If the job market is that bad or you could only get this job by changing how you look,then thats what you have to do,but by no means does it mean you couldnt make a living at welding and have a few piercings.

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                          • #43
                            seems like you have decided takeing them out will increase your odds of getting work. so do what you need to do to keep working. if your presesnt job is ok with it and you intend to stay on there after the aprenticship then it realy should not matter as you are already hired.
                            if you intend to go out knocking on doors for a job, yep better take them out, get the job and feel out the inployer befor putting them back in. odds are good if you show up for a wile doing a good job and being on time he will be ok with the pierings if you are in the shop. if its a shop requiring lots of interaction with cliants he will likely say you gotta lose them, calling it a safty ishue as you cant "discriminate" so it will be all about safty not looks. some people can be realy extream about it, the last place my wife worked they made her take all her earings out, she had 3 in each ear. none were larger than a standerd ladys piering, the smallest one you can get. it was said it was due to safty incase the ball was to fall out of the hoop and land in some ones food. more likely it was to inshure that a guy like you could not scream discrimination about his piercings when they let my wife where hers. so every one has to deal with it in one way or another.
                            i spent many years as a carpenter with long hair, few tat's, and a few earings(2). kinda expected of a carpenter so few would not hire due to it, but add a few face piercings and things start to change. best to get your foot in the door befor trying the piercings, and then you can decide if you like the job and the pay enough to keep them out or move on to another place to try again.
                            best of luck to ya.
                            FWIW i have a few tats that would not be to well acepted by many cliants or even alowed show on this board, but add a shirt and all thats seen is my POW*MIA and my U.S.Army. both pretty well accepted.
                            thanks for the help
                            ......or..........
                            hope i helped
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by usmcphil View Post
                              Dude I know its messed up. Most people are going to think that way at first. Here is what you need to do PROVE YOURSELF! If you put your mind to it you can accomplish anything. Just always be polite and never give up always do your best you will get there!

                              That is a fact! I am in a position where I can hire (or fire) any person, with cause. I have always attempted to allow a person to “impress me” by their self and not their looks. It never hurts to “hide” certain aspects if you think that it may put an unfair bias on yourself, but if “you are what you wear” then don’t hide anything and if they can’t accept that then you don’t want to work there. We are who we are. There is a place and a time for everything. I would never trust a mechanic that didn’t have grease under his nails nor would I go to office person that had torn clothes. We chose our professions and our professions dress us. Could you imagine going to a farm and everyone was wearing a tux; not worth the overhead.

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                              • #45
                                There comes a time in life when you should quit trying to define yourself with your outward appearance. Your friends will still like you without all the blingin jewelry. You will still be the same person if you cut your hair, etc.

                                Give up on trying to define yourself in a visual way. God already did that, leave it alone. Now, from there, you need to do what is best for you... that will be to ditch the huge nose rings and freakish stuff that will only hold you down in life. Hopefully you haven't stretched your skin out to the point that it won't go back. 10 years of thinking you're cool...then 70 years of being the idiot with huge earlobes? That's pretty stupid, if you ask me.

                                Yes, you have a right to do that...but it's your future you're playing with, not mine.

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