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  • Good deal for Millermatic 175 mig on Ebay

    Ebay Item # 230046967036 is a new Millermatic 175 mig welder for $679.95 with free shipping and no tax. 7 left to sell. I have no connection to the seller. I just bought one.

  • #2
    Big push to get rid of them now that the MM180 is out?

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    • #3
      MM 180 is apparently MM 175 + 5 amps + $100. Not yet available in the US.

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      • #4
        I dunno...my LWS still has a new HH175 on display. Bet they still have a few MM175's in a year as well.
        Don


        '06 Trailblazer 302
        '06 12RC feeder
        Super S-32P feeder

        HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
        Esab Multimaster 260
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        • #5
          Originally posted by dongill View Post
          MM 180 is apparently MM 175 + 5 amps + $100. Not yet available in the US.
          The MM180 is available in the middle of US (Miller likes to be quiet about releases until it's available nationwide which will be by the first of the year according to my rep.), it is also being sold right now on Ebay by IOC. From what I understand there is quite a bit more than just the +5 amps, I know for sure that there is a means (switch?) to disable the WST feature (a very good thing IMO) plus other stuff we don't quite know about. I owned a MM175 (for a few months) some time back and If were me I would wait until I could test drive the new MM180, the Lincoln 180C & T, & the HH187 before buying.
          Regards, George

          Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig
          Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
          Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

          Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me
          Miller Spectrum 375 - Nice Cutter

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sundown View Post
            The MM180 is available in the middle of US (Miller likes to be quiet about releases until it's available nationwide which will be by the first of the year according to my rep.), it is also being sold right now on Ebay by IOC. From what I understand there is quite a bit more than just the +5 amps, I know for sure that there is a means (switch?) to disable the WST feature (a very good thing IMO) plus other stuff we don't quite know about. I owned a MM175 (for a few months) some time back and If were me I would wait until I could test drive the new MM180, the Lincoln 180C & T, & the HH187 before buying.
            One major improvement on the MM 180, over the MM 175, is arc starts. The MM 175 is somewhat stickout sensitive. The MM 180 on the other hand will fire off a good arc start everytime, even with a 1/2" stickout. I also noticed in wire speed tracking mode, the MM 180 is much easier to dial in a solid metal transfer on, then the MM 175. Supposed too, there have also been some improvements made to the output that I haven't got to see yet, because they were done after my field testing of the unit. Hopefully soon though, I'll get my quick look at one of these updated units to check out how much of an improvement was made.

            On the MM 180 to go from wire speed tracking mode, to constant wire speed mode, requires a little more then flipping a switch. As a matter of fact, there is no switch. To accomplish the task of going from wire speed tracking to non-wirespeed tracking mode, requires the following procedure:
            1. Power down unit.
            2. Turn wire speed dial to mininum setting.
            3. Turn voltage dial to maximum.
            4. Pull gun trigger, and hold.
            5. Power up unit, while still holding gun trigger down.
            6. Hold gun trigger for at least one second, then release it.

            To put the unit back into wire speed tracking mode, requires following the same procedure, except you turn the wire speed and voltage dials in the opposite directions.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Danny View Post
              One major improvement on the MM 180, over the MM 175, is arc starts. The MM 175 is somewhat stickout sensitive. The MM 180 on the other hand will fire off a good arc start everytime, even with a 1/2" stickout. I also noticed in wire speed tracking mode, the MM 180 is much easier to dial in a solid metal transfer on, then the MM 175. Supposed too, there have also been some improvements made to the output that I haven't got to see yet, because they were done after my field testing of the unit. Hopefully soon though, I'll get my quick look at one of these updated units to check out how much of an improvement was made.

              On the MM 180 to go from wire speed tracking mode, to constant wire speed mode, requires a little more then flipping a switch. As a matter of fact, there is no switch. To accomplish the task of going from wire speed tracking to non-wirespeed tracking mode, requires the following procedure:
              1. Power down unit.
              2. Turn wire speed dial to mininum setting.
              3. Turn voltage dial to maximum.
              4. Pull gun trigger, and hold.
              5. Power up unit, while still holding gun trigger down.
              6. Hold gun trigger for at least one second, then release it.
              To put the unit back into wire speed tracking mode, requires following the same procedure, except you turn the wire speed and voltage dials in the opposite directions.
              Thats cute, I would have liked a button better Thanks for the info.
              Regards, George

              Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig
              Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
              Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

              Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me
              Miller Spectrum 375 - Nice Cutter

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              • #8
                dose kinda seem like a bit of a hassel that a flip switch would have solved, also how do you know what mode its in with this method ?? with a flip switch one quick glance would tell ya.
                i must say for such a smart inovative company that was kind of a bone head move, would have been les expensive to add a switch then all the sensing equipment needed to understand the switch internaly. perhaps that was just the process during the testing fase and it will come out with a flip switch ??
                thanks for the help
                ......or..........
                hope i helped
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                • #9
                  My guess is that the average buyer wouldn't even read the manual to even know that WST existed and would probably never notice it anyway, just like most current MM175 users. Now, the more educated, like our readers, will likely just turn it off right away and never turn it back on.

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                  • #10
                    true, odds are you will only use it one way or the othere. not to likely to be switching back and forth, you eather want it or you dont.
                    and like ya said most will never even know its there much less know the diference even if they do read it in the book.
                    thanks for the help
                    ......or..........
                    hope i helped
                    sigpic
                    feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat. james@newyorkmetalart.com
                    summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
                    JAMES

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MAC702 View Post
                      My guess is that the average buyer wouldn't even read the manual to even know that WST existed and would probably never notice it anyway, just like most current MM175 users. Now, the more educated, like our readers, will likely just turn it off right away and never turn it back on.
                      The information I get is that it comes turned off and you have to turn in on, that is if you care or even know about such things.
                      Regards, George

                      Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig
                      Hobart Handler 140 - Great 120V Mig
                      Hobart Handler EZ125 - IMO the best 120V Flux Core only machine

                      Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me
                      Miller Spectrum 375 - Nice Cutter

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                      • #12
                        I am thinking like sberry on this one...turn it off and bust off the knob.
                        Don


                        '06 Trailblazer 302
                        '06 12RC feeder
                        Super S-32P feeder

                        HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
                        Esab Multimaster 260
                        Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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                        • #13
                          WTH is WST ?

                          OK here shines my lack of knowledge ....


                          OK - so it 'adjusts' the wire speed as voltage is adjusted.

                          What is bad/good about it?

                          I assume my MM210 does not have it as there is no mention in the manual?
                          Last edited by harcosparky; 11-11-2006, 11:30 AM.

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                          • #14
                            I wish they'd put a functions adjustment button on the 250dx too...

                            It's pretty half assed to need to "power down and up and wait for something to display and then hit this button while holding this one, turn around three times and count to 8, then divide by 3 multiply that by 4 and then turn the power off again" just to change a hot start to a soft start or something else as simple.

                            Would another function button really be that difficult to add since it would allow you to shorten the users manual by 10 pages? Surely, there's merit to making it easier.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sundown View Post
                              The information I get is that it comes turned off and you have to turn in on, that is if you care or even know about such things.

                              Yeah George, the info on the spec sheet states, "unit shipped with wire feed speed tracking set to off".

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