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  • Welder tip shape

    For you experienced pros in welding:

    My buddy has several tips [the brass push on/off piece that covers the copper electrode] that is has ground down at about 45 degree angles. Some have 1 45 degree angle and some have 2. He tells me these are for welding corners and places where the full cone shaped head cannot get into. He has a MM 252.

    He is not a professional welder, just a home user.

    I have a few folks about this and no one seems to know one way or another if this makes good welding sense.

    What do you guys think????
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  • #2
    why would the tip be sticking out farther than the nozzle? I don't understand how the tip would get in the way, are you talking about the nozzle?
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    • #3
      angle ground into nozzle

      Amateur musings...

      Biggest problem is that -- if you get into the corners closer than the regular nozzle would allow -- how are you going to see what you are doing? Welding inside corners and angles isn't all that difficult with a regular nozzle.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Clavacle View Post
        why would the tip be sticking out farther than the nozzle? I don't understand how the tip would get in the way, are you talking about the nozzle?
        NOZZLE was the word I was looking for. He grinds 1 and both sides down to fit into tight spaces such as right angles etc.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by EdZep View Post
          Amateur musings...

          Biggest problem is that -- if you get into the corners closer than the regular nozzle would allow -- how are you going to see what you are doing? Welding inside corners and angles isn't all that difficult with a regular nozzle.
          Seems to me there would also be a shielding gas problem???
          Don
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          • #6
            I have a couple of nozzles in my tool box at work for getting into hard to reach places. Nothing fancy, just some love with the belt sander and a die grinder. Only use them for tight places that are unweldable normally, switch back to a normal tip when I'm done.
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            • #7
              actualy, they make similer tips for spot welding with MIG. they make one for flat, inside corner and outside corner.
              i can get you a pic if you want.
              thanks for the help
              ......or..........
              hope i helped
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              • #8
                Originally posted by fun4now View Post
                actualy, they make similer tips for spot welding with MIG. they make one for flat, inside corner and outside corner.
                i can get you a pic if you want.
                I have seen those, thanks...
                Don
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                • #9
                  Amateur musings: poke a stick in his eye why don't ya?

                  Originally posted by EdZep View Post
                  Amateur musings...

                  Biggest problem is that -- if you get into the corners closer than the regular nozzle would allow -- how are you going to see what you are doing? Welding inside corners and angles isn't all that difficult with a regular nozzle.
                  Yes; Ed Zap your musings are amateurish.

                  One need not all ways see the arc to produce a fine weld, especially with wire feed welding, as the sound of the weld as well as the reflected light can usually guide a proficient welder.

                  Many a fine weld has been produced with the contact tip extended well past the end of the gas nozzle. A small amount of purged gas to expel the atmosphere, strike the arc and listen to what you are doing.


                  I as well have several custom shaped gas nozzles and a few custom bent contact tips to go with.



                  What ever it takes to get comfortable with the job at hand, to produce the best weld at the time.


                  So amateurs muse away, you never know who will come up with the next great idea.
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