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  • #31
    Thanks!!!!!!!!!

    Originally posted by Anti-GMAW View Post
    As a matter of fact I do. Now what where we talking about again? O Ya... Now I remember, if you'r wondering why no one realy cares to help you then maybe take a look at your second post (and pretty much ever other post preceeding it). Particularly the last sentance in post #2. If you still can't figure it out then all I have to say is open electrical boxes are fun to hug and if you flap you'r arms realy hard when jumping off a cliff you can fly. You shaould go try them.
    Thats why i allways keep the windex next to the screen,,and Opps the papre towels are running low!!!Oppps spelt some thing rong,But if i spelt everything correct,call 911,Jack

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    • #32
      Just in case . . .

      Just in case you really are that lacking in electrical knowledge. NO you can not steal one leg off of one 110vac and another of another 110vac and get the power you need. You will simple kick both breakers if you are lucky. You will end up with a very unstable supply and most likely FRY your welder if it is an inverter . . .

      What is so hard about doing a temp receptacle next to your breaker panel . . ?
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      • #33
        no thanks

        There'd still have to be one or more holes in the wall and modification of the panel. I wouldn't want this done by a tenant, nor the fire hazard, etc. My last renter put a bunch of plywood in the attic for storage... laying it on top of electric lines. That was bad enough.

        Originally posted by WACKO WELDER View Post
        What is so hard about doing a temp receptacle next to your breaker panel . . ?

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        • #34
          you are NOT allowed by rental laws to change anything on your landlords "real" property without the consent of your landlord...no adding to the structure nor changing any part of it including painting of the walls or any adjustments to the wiring..for that matter in ontario you can not even change a lock without giving the landlord a key to permit him entry in case of an emergency or if the police need to get in...i think what you are trying to do is likely unsafe and unlawful

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          • #35
            wattage

            Originally posted by gatkeper1 View Post
            Before you go any further you need to determine if you do indeed have 220-240V available to you from the main box. You may not.
            We leased a farm and house for a few years where no 220V was available.
            How? The main drop was feed into a transformer that dropped the incoming 240V down to 120V so that a balanced load was always drawn from the meter resulting in a very resonable electric bill
            A Maxstar 150 on 115V at 150 amp output in TIG mode will draw 28 Amps
            There is no (NO) difference in the wattage consumed between120v and 240v.
            Wattage consumed is the product of the volts x amps.
            Any savings between 120v and 240v would be in the savings of possibly smaller (therefore less cost) distribution wiring.

            Griff01

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            • #36
              I live in Louisiana

              Anything you do that enhances the value is welcome if done properly on a rented single family dwelling. The home I currently live in was a rental at one time. Renters made many improvements . . . Of course you want permission from the owner . . .
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              • #37
                "enhances value" and "done properly"

                ...are too open to subjective interpretation. A 240v outlet in a place that's been doing fine without is not my idea of enhanced value. It just increases the likelihood that a tenant might be doing something hazardous like, say, welding.

                Originally posted by WACKO WELDER View Post
                Anything you do that enhances the value is welcome if done properly on a rented single family dwelling. The home I currently live in was a rental at one time. Renters made many improvements . . . Of course you want permission from the owner . . .

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                • #38
                  Power

                  Originally posted by tempraiser View Post
                  Did anyone even read my post, or did they just make jokes based on what everyone else said? So far I've had one question answered: the maxstar 150 draws 28-30 amps on 110v at full power. Good. Somebody knows something. Suppose I could draw 20A at 220v (don't ask me where I'll find the outlet, and remember I can't install or modify wiring). Would that give me about 200w of output with my torch? I've also heard that the CST 250 (older model, no longer listed in the miller product list) tops out at 200 amps on single-phase, and NEEDS three-phase power to go any higher. Is this true?

                  Someone apparently misread my second message and dug up more arrogance than I put in.
                  If you draw 28-30 amps with 110v you will pull 14-15 amps on 220v.
                  Do not know your output at the torch but it will not be in "w " (watts?).
                  Electrical specifications would be needed to address the last question.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by griff01 View Post
                    There is no (NO) difference in the wattage consumed between120v and 240v.
                    Wattage consumed is the product of the volts x amps.
                    Any savings between 120v and 240v would be in the savings of possibly smaller (therefore less cost) distribution wiring.

                    Griff01
                    The transformer is between the meter and the distribution panel.This allowed the load to the meter to always be balanced. You don't have to believe it works, but it does
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                    • #40
                      i made many additions to the town home i lived in be for . all to better the value of the place, and all with prior consent from the owner. no chance this guy will get the ok to add a 240V line so he can weld. odds are good even if he gets a dyn or max star and sticks to 120V usage, he will be out on the street in no time. although judging from his attitude, i would suspect he thinks his lease will prevent the owner from throwing him out for welding in the living room..............

                      some just need more help than others.
                      Anti-GMAW if this is the biggest A-hole you have met i need to move where you live. i have met many well beyond this guy, not that he isn't one, just not the worst.
                      thanks for the help
                      ......or..........
                      hope i helped
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                      • #41
                        Holy Cr ap

                        You just gave him a idea!!!!!!wasnt there a guy on miller,or hobart,that built a motorcycle in his livinroom?????????.Jack

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by fun4now View Post
                          i made many additions to the town home i lived in be for . all to better the value of the place, and all with prior consent from the owner. no chance this guy will get the ok to add a 240V line so he can weld. odds are good even if he gets a dyn or max star and sticks to 120V usage, he will be out on the street in no time. although judging from his attitude, i would suspect he thinks his lease will prevent the owner from throwing him out for welding in the living room..............

                          some just need more help than others.
                          Anti-GMAW if this is the biggest A-hole you have met i need to move where you live. i have met many well beyond this guy, not that he isn't one, just not the worst.
                          Both you guys need to meet the jacka$$ i bought the boat from.... Sigh..
                          you think this ones got nerve...
                          Will it weld? I loooove electricity!

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                          • #43
                            We need to hook this guy up with the guy that built his own welder from microwave parts, that guy was a piece of work too. I think they would make a good pair, and perhaps he could make this guy some sort of power transmogrifier to get him the power he needs.

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                            • #44
                              Electrical consumption

                              Originally posted by gatkeper1 View Post
                              The transformer is between the meter and the distribution panel.This allowed the load to the meter to always be balanced. You don't have to believe it works, but it does
                              Does NOT matter where the transformer is located. VAs are Vas. (That is volts times amps) 110v or 220v does not matter. The wattage used will be the same, ALWAYS.
                              Are you "balancing the meter" on the roof or on the floor?????????????

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by WACKO WELDER View Post
                                Just in case you really are that lacking in electrical knowledge. NO you can not steal one leg off of one 110vac and another of another 110vac and get the power you need. You will simple kick both breakers if you are lucky. You will end up with a very unstable supply and most likely FRY your welder if it is an inverter . . .

                                What is so hard about doing a temp receptacle next to your breaker panel . . ?
                                Did you see my first post? They designed a product specifically for that purpose. 220 is simply two 110v lines with phases opposite each other, so that concept is sound. The question is, would this work with a welder? Since some run at 110v, you would expect that using 220 would lighten the load (double apparent voltage, divide current in half).

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