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  • swyman
    started a topic Anyone try instructing???

    Anyone try instructing???

    I went out today handing out my business cards as you all advised me to do at every business in town and had some great reponses from people! I was thinking..... There has to be a market to teach that person who went to TSC and bought a 115V wire feed and can't figure out how to lay a good bead. I think I could put an ad in the paper for 1on1 basic welding instruction for that weekend tinkerer???? Anyone tried it or have any thoughts?? I have taught several people how to weld and they all turned out to get real good at it. I believe I could teach anyone to properly set up a machine and lay nice beads. I would even give some quick classroom on how the weld process works. Nothing crazy or extensive just a intro to teach them to do it. What y'all think???
    Shane

  • safetydave
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    welding instructing

    Hey swyman just thought i would give a shout to you and see if you came up with any thing else on your instructing post?

    It might be a good idea if you put an ad in the local paper if some one is wanting to learn the basics of welding just for the weekend or hobby welders
    you might be suprised and find that alot of people are interested but feel like ti might be to overwhelming for them to (GO TO SCHOOL AGIAN) if you know what i mean and would prefer that it be with some one on a 1-1 basis and not feel so pressured and get a more understanding of the trade.

    Like i said in another post a school buddy of mine does it at the local career center an he has an A & B class the fee was $90-100 and you had to have the basic gear.

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  • jonnymag
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    Try PMing Bert. Might take him a while to answer though. The last time I talked to him he was pretty busy at work. But he can probably answer some of your questions.

    One of the high schools here has a metal/welding shop and offers adult ed Basic Welding classes. Bert taught the class for a couple of semesters while he was waiting for a welding job.

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  • fun4now
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    have you talked to the schools to see why they don't have the classes any more ?? could just be they have no instructor ?? in this case you should know they do take experience into account when hiring teachers for Vo-Tec classes. might be worth a call or trip ???
    best of luck. i suppose putting an add in the local shopper or paper will tell you if the market is there.

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  • swyman
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    Originally posted by fun4now View Post
    checking the local adult edd schools is a great idea. they give you a lot of leeway and would help be a buffer between you and the fool that welds the shock back on his 3/4ton with a 80amp clark. lets hope you explain size dose matter first.
    they have an ornamental welding class here for like $80 or $90 they decided to just try on a whim, its been full every class. there is a big need for the home hobby guy. not to learn to weld bridges, just to do a better job at home on the stuff he dose for him or the wife. look into school options.
    That's what I'm getting at! Our local vocational school no longer teaches welding. I cannot seem to get any work so I'm grasping at straws to try to make a buck and this is an idea I came up with. I'm not looking to screw anyone and am sincere. I am not set up for a multi student class and if I try this it will be 1 on 1 instruction which I feel would be better for the student. I would also consider going to the individuals home to use their machine. I am going to talk to a lawyer first after the replies from this forum....CYA!

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  • fun4now
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    checking the local adult edd schools is a great idea. they give you a lot of leeway and would help be a buffer between you and the fool that welds the shock back on his 3/4ton with a 80amp clark. lets hope you explain size dose matter first.
    they have an ornamental welding class here for like $80 or $90 they decided to just try on a whim, its been full every class. there is a big need for the home hobby guy. not to learn to weld bridges, just to do a better job at home on the stuff he dose for him or the wife. look into school options.

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  • safetydave
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    weld instruction

    swyman ok i have read all the post about your idea and now i'm going to give my opinion.
    I do think there needs to be some one that is qualified in this area to give the basic instruction to the weekend welders in the world that don't have all the skills or knowledge of some one that is a skilled welder, if this is the case then i'd be considered as an insrtucter ta my job because the guys i work with are not at the same skill level as i'm at with this trade, for example I have over 15-20yrs of welding and the guys in the shop only have 2-5yrs and not all of it is within all the same areas mig-steel,alum,cast, or tig-steel,alum cast do you see what i'm saying, so what i'm getting at is yes i do welding instruction at my full time job and some times i do get a little cash from the guys and sometimes not and NO I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THERE WELDS GOOD OR BAD. As for some one trying to sue me go a head and try it will take you for ever to get any money becuase i'l be the one who draggs it out for ever to the point where you will be saying just forget it this guys nuts(ha,ha,ha,) I do have a buddy from school that teaches welding a class at our local community carrer school and he do's charge between $90-120 for an (A & B class) and the classes are always full, so if any of you are in th coldwater,mi are and want some welding insturction shoot me a line and i'll get info for you.

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  • Jolly Roger
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    I have been known to teach

    I was approached by a college back home to instruct (neither one of my degrees is in welding), but I turned it down . I have taught quite a few various aspects of welding. These were all other welders (yes we teach each other the tricks we know) or helpers that actually wanted to learn (some of them don't). In commercial construction everybody tests, so the skills are proven. Residential is a different story, most especially around here. Until January of this year there was no building code and you wouldn't believe some of the screwball calls I get, even from supposedly licensed contractors. You also wouldn't believe all of the calls I get wanting me to fix the booboo's of the very same types you want to turn loose on the world. You ought to hear the screams when they hear the price, LOL.

    I do own the company, and no there is no certified welding engineer. In commercial work everything is done from prints which must be drawn up by a state licensed architect or engineer. You can't get a permit without them.

    Yes I will teach someone who wants to learn, but they have to hire on as a helper and work for the privilege of learning (it's called apprenticeship) and if they work hard, pay attention and practice lots and lots they will eventually make a welder. Otherwise it is much cheaper to pay me to do it as my rates for teaching the guys with a mig pac are double my hourly rates for welding. It's usually a really big headache between tv and the little booklets they get with the machine.

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  • gofastdaddy4
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    sounds like a good thing until you mention "liability" then it gets scary.the only way i guess to go is have your student sign a release form and stress that you are giving basic instructions and in no way are you certifying there ability.i would sell welding instructing cd's there is where the money is at.good luck

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  • tacmig
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    Ohhhh...

    Originally posted by WACKO WELDER View Post
    I thought you were being funny . . . as to the spell checker . . . I have found an excellent one that was designed to work on WEB based text and best of all it is free . . . .

    Take care,
    Steve (aka Wacko Welder )
    I'm always being funny. Life is to short for anything else! I just like to keep people on their feet.

    TacMig

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  • Wacko Welder
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    Excuse me . . .

    I thought you were being funny . . . as to the spell checker . . . I have found an excellent one that was designed to work on WEB based text and best of all it is free . . . .

    Take care,
    Steve (aka Wacko Welder )

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  • billie-t
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    if you were to "show" someone the basics of welding and then turned them loose on the world..would the phrase..."i think you could make a good weldor..you should, before you do any public work, go take a government test...pass it ...and start a company and have a certified welding engineer on retainer"

    other than that...have fun!

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  • tacmig
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    You guys? Spelling?

    Originally posted by WACKO WELDER View Post
    My apology to Tacmig . . . I had not noticed you were from southern California . . . I lived there for 6 years . . . You guys will sue if your bathwater is not the temperature you "feel" it should be . . .

    Again my apology . . .
    First, be careful you said "you guys" implying me. I've never sued anybody in my life although I probably should have on a few occasions. Second, my spelling? I have never used a spell checker and consider my spelling very good along with my choice of words (vocabulary) and structure. For example; when you say "my apology to Tacmig" implies you are addressing a group instead of directing your intent to your subject (incorrect structure for letter form). Correct structure is: My apology TacMig. I could go on here but it's not in the best interest of this forum nor do I engage anyone on a personal level. Hence, I would ask you to consider doing the same. My original post was to simply make the thread author aware of additional elements in which he/she may want to consider prior to choosing a direction in which to go. After all, that's what this forum is all about. Challenging others opinions and commenting on their spelling is not helpful and does not help the thread author.

    Happy welding.

    TacMig

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  • swyman
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    Another thing I learned today from my brother-in-law who is still in school and goes to the vocational school I went to 15 years ago told me that they discontinued the welding class there 2 years ago. This is sad because they also did a lot with adult education in that field. So what is a person to do if they want to learn about the welding process and does not want to spend the time or $$ to go to a community college for a semester. You mention the word college to some people and they freak out and want nothing to do with it. I'm not saying these people are not intelligent, but we all know someone like that. I have good backround and I just think that your neighbor might want to learn to weld that wagon back together but everytime he tries he blows a hole in it or it just breaks off. We have all been there and or know someone who has. Justs saddens me to see a good program at county vocational school let welding go. It's a great skill to have I just see it as well as many skilled trades getting tossed aside.

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  • Wacko Welder
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    My apology to Tacmig . . .

    My apology to Tacmig . . . I had not noticed you were from southern California . . . I lived there for 6 years . . . You guys will sue if your bathwater is not the temperature you "feel" it should be . . .

    Again my apology . . .

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