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  • #16
    if you were to "show" someone the basics of welding and then turned them loose on the world..would the phrase..."i think you could make a good weldor..you should, before you do any public work, go take a government test...pass it ...and start a company and have a certified welding engineer on retainer"

    other than that...have fun!

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    • #17
      Excuse me . . .

      I thought you were being funny . . . as to the spell checker . . . I have found an excellent one that was designed to work on WEB based text and best of all it is free . . . .

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      • #18
        Ohhhh...

        Originally posted by WACKO WELDER View Post
        I thought you were being funny . . . as to the spell checker . . . I have found an excellent one that was designed to work on WEB based text and best of all it is free . . . .

        Take care,
        Steve (aka Wacko Welder )
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        • #19
          sounds like a good thing until you mention "liability" then it gets scary.the only way i guess to go is have your student sign a release form and stress that you are giving basic instructions and in no way are you certifying there ability.i would sell welding instructing cd's there is where the money is at.good luck
          my ability is limited by me only.

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          • #20
            I have been known to teach

            I was approached by a college back home to instruct (neither one of my degrees is in welding), but I turned it down . I have taught quite a few various aspects of welding. These were all other welders (yes we teach each other the tricks we know) or helpers that actually wanted to learn (some of them don't). In commercial construction everybody tests, so the skills are proven. Residential is a different story, most especially around here. Until January of this year there was no building code and you wouldn't believe some of the screwball calls I get, even from supposedly licensed contractors. You also wouldn't believe all of the calls I get wanting me to fix the booboo's of the very same types you want to turn loose on the world. You ought to hear the screams when they hear the price, LOL.

            I do own the company, and no there is no certified welding engineer. In commercial work everything is done from prints which must be drawn up by a state licensed architect or engineer. You can't get a permit without them.

            Yes I will teach someone who wants to learn, but they have to hire on as a helper and work for the privilege of learning (it's called apprenticeship) and if they work hard, pay attention and practice lots and lots they will eventually make a welder. Otherwise it is much cheaper to pay me to do it as my rates for teaching the guys with a mig pac are double my hourly rates for welding. It's usually a really big headache between tv and the little booklets they get with the machine.
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            • #21
              weld instruction

              swyman ok i have read all the post about your idea and now i'm going to give my opinion.
              I do think there needs to be some one that is qualified in this area to give the basic instruction to the weekend welders in the world that don't have all the skills or knowledge of some one that is a skilled welder, if this is the case then i'd be considered as an insrtucter ta my job because the guys i work with are not at the same skill level as i'm at with this trade, for example I have over 15-20yrs of welding and the guys in the shop only have 2-5yrs and not all of it is within all the same areas mig-steel,alum,cast, or tig-steel,alum cast do you see what i'm saying, so what i'm getting at is yes i do welding instruction at my full time job and some times i do get a little cash from the guys and sometimes not and NO I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THERE WELDS GOOD OR BAD. As for some one trying to sue me go a head and try it will take you for ever to get any money becuase i'l be the one who draggs it out for ever to the point where you will be saying just forget it this guys nuts(ha,ha,ha,) I do have a buddy from school that teaches welding a class at our local community carrer school and he do's charge between $90-120 for an (A & B class) and the classes are always full, so if any of you are in th coldwater,mi are and want some welding insturction shoot me a line and i'll get info for you.
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              Grizzly 16" vert band saw-(home)
              DeWalt chop saw-(home)
              Craftsman 4"-7" hand grinders
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              Lots of vise clamps(not enough)
              assortment bar clamps

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              • #22
                checking the local adult edd schools is a great idea. they give you a lot of leeway and would help be a buffer between you and the fool that welds the shock back on his 3/4ton with a 80amp clark. lets hope you explain size dose matter first.
                they have an ornamental welding class here for like $80 or $90 they decided to just try on a whim, its been full every class. there is a big need for the home hobby guy. not to learn to weld bridges, just to do a better job at home on the stuff he dose for him or the wife. look into school options.
                thanks for the help
                ......or..........
                hope i helped
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by fun4now View Post
                  checking the local adult edd schools is a great idea. they give you a lot of leeway and would help be a buffer between you and the fool that welds the shock back on his 3/4ton with a 80amp clark. lets hope you explain size dose matter first.
                  they have an ornamental welding class here for like $80 or $90 they decided to just try on a whim, its been full every class. there is a big need for the home hobby guy. not to learn to weld bridges, just to do a better job at home on the stuff he dose for him or the wife. look into school options.
                  That's what I'm getting at! Our local vocational school no longer teaches welding. I cannot seem to get any work so I'm grasping at straws to try to make a buck and this is an idea I came up with. I'm not looking to screw anyone and am sincere. I am not set up for a multi student class and if I try this it will be 1 on 1 instruction which I feel would be better for the student. I would also consider going to the individuals home to use their machine. I am going to talk to a lawyer first after the replies from this forum....CYA!
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                  • #24
                    have you talked to the schools to see why they don't have the classes any more ?? could just be they have no instructor ?? in this case you should know they do take experience into account when hiring teachers for Vo-Tec classes. might be worth a call or trip ???
                    best of luck. i suppose putting an add in the local shopper or paper will tell you if the market is there.
                    thanks for the help
                    ......or..........
                    hope i helped
                    sigpic
                    feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat. james@newyorkmetalart.com
                    summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
                    JAMES

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                    • #25
                      Try PMing Bert. Might take him a while to answer though. The last time I talked to him he was pretty busy at work. But he can probably answer some of your questions.

                      One of the high schools here has a metal/welding shop and offers adult ed Basic Welding classes. Bert taught the class for a couple of semesters while he was waiting for a welding job.

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                      • #26
                        welding instructing

                        Hey swyman just thought i would give a shout to you and see if you came up with any thing else on your instructing post?

                        It might be a good idea if you put an ad in the local paper if some one is wanting to learn the basics of welding just for the weekend or hobby welders
                        you might be suprised and find that alot of people are interested but feel like ti might be to overwhelming for them to (GO TO SCHOOL AGIAN) if you know what i mean and would prefer that it be with some one on a 1-1 basis and not feel so pressured and get a more understanding of the trade.

                        Like i said in another post a school buddy of mine does it at the local career center an he has an A & B class the fee was $90-100 and you had to have the basic gear.
                        Syncrowave 250/Coolmate-3-(home)
                        RMS-14 (kisser button)-(home)
                        Craftmans/S-K tools-(home)
                        Grizzly 16" vert band saw-(home)
                        DeWalt chop saw-(home)
                        Craftsman 4"-7" hand grinders
                        Lincoln 225 arc welder
                        Lots of vise clamps(not enough)
                        assortment bar clamps

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