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  • kraythe
    started a topic Mitre Joint vs T Joint

    Mitre Joint vs T Joint

    I have been working on a welding table plan and I was currious if anyone knew if there was a difference in strength between a mitre joint and a corner T joint. My suspicion is that the mitre joint should be stronger because there is more welded surface but that is more of a guess.

    Anyone know ?

  • davedarragh
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    "Composed"

    Originally posted by kraythe View Post
    If you knew what I know about the code that drives modern aircraft you would probably be too scared to fly again.

    And If I rub you the wrong way that bad, just simply don't read my threads. Its not really that hard. A little self control will accomplish it.
    Haven't flown commercially since 1997, haven't had the need to.

    Your threads are so entertaining, I can't help it. I'll try to refrain, thanks for the "pep" talk, I feel better now.
    Last edited by davedarragh; 02-04-2010, 07:38 PM.

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  • kraythe
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    Originally posted by davedarragh View Post
    I'll try and remember that next time an earthquake hits L.A., or terrorists decide to fly jetliners into skyscrapers
    If you knew what I know about the code that drives modern aircraft you would probably be too scared to fly again.

    As for people not caring about what I do. *shrug* OK. Fair enough. I was just using that to make a larger point about the lack of a need to be a jerk to others. Yes there are people here that have forgotten more about welding than I will ever know. Great. Does that make them gods? No. Superhuman? No Everyone else stupid? No. The fact that you likely cant do what i can do with a computer doesn't mean you are dumber than I. It just means we have different skills in life. The difference is when people come on a computer forum and ask me questions, I don't feel the need to berate them or puff up my own ego. I merely answer them.

    And If I rub you the wrong way that bad, just simply don't read my threads. Its not really that hard. A little self control will accomplish it.

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  • ligito
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    Nap time?

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  • davedarragh
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    "Reality Check"

    Originally posted by kraythe View Post
    Failures in computer programs are far more dangerous than a weld breaking.
    I'll try and remember that next time an earthquake hits L.A., or terrorists decide to fly jetliners into skyscrapers

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  • davedarragh
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    "Literary Masterpiece"

    Originally posted by crawler View Post
    I don't think anyone gives a rats a$$ about what you do. There are plenty of people on this board with better qualifications and credentials.

    They may be responding to you in particular manner based on the threads you have started on this board as well as weldingweb.
    Crawler: In two sentences you summed it all up!

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  • crawler
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    Originally posted by kraythe View Post
    Actually computer errors could wipe out entire cities power grids, cause a whole city to be destroyed, destroy billions of dollars in financial transactions and even, yes, hurt someone personally. Failures in computer programs are far more dangerous than a weld breaking.

    The reality is that I haven't been argumentative. There are some great helpful people here like Sonora and Pss N Gas and a others. However, there are also many people here that are elitists who seem to believe they are raised higher than mortal man by the fact that they are a *gasp* professional welder. The reality is that they know a trade pretty well, though there is always someone that knows it better, and they can answer a few questions. That just makes them useful to others, not gods. If you ask me a question on Java, I wont act like you are a complete moron for asking the question and not knowing the answer. I will simply answer the question. Even if you asked me a question about something that could lead to a dangerous situation, I would merely calmly explain why it was a bad idea and back it up with fact.

    If someone asks a question here there is a toss up between whether you will get a useful answer or someone will say "OMG you suck that you don't know that, never touch another piece of metal again you moron." If Sonora or Pass N Gas answer you, you will likely get useful information backed up by facts, references or pictures. If some others, who I wont name, answer you, you will likely get their ego self-stroking of the day. They are behind the internet, behind the cloak of anonymity and many people react to that by being jerks. And god forbid if you step on their own pissing ground as I did with my opinion of MIG welding. Instead of disagreeing, many people take the tact of trying to destroy anyone that disagrees. I know at least 3 professional welders with dozens of years of experience that share my opinion of MIG welding and in fact influenced my opinion but that doesn't matter if you tread on someone's pissing ground.

    This dynamic is no different than any other forum I have seen on the internet. That is why I largely dismiss the annoying elitist, know-it-all people without a second thought. Sometimes it is amusing that they have the arrogance to think that they can affect my life when they are, in the end, just some anonymous person across the internet with absolutely no effect on my life.
    I don't think anyone gives a rats a$$ about what you do. There are plenty of people on this board with better qualifications and credentials.

    They may be responding to you in particular manner based on the threads you have started on this board as well as weldingweb.

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  • Broccoli1
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    Mig sucks- I don't know why Miller even bothers making any

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  • Sonora Iron
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    kraythe, you have several good points!
    I truly don’t understand why some like to jump on the new guy, but honestly you should see a job site. I have a nickname for this type on the job site, “Wolf Pack”! They see a weak spot, and they’re on it like white on rice.

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  • kraythe
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    Originally posted by davedarragh View Post
    Kraythe: Having said that, the many things you ask ARE critical to not only YOUR SAFETY, but the SAFETY of others.

    Asking for the design thresholds of your many quests, is more than a mere hobby. Hobby welding is making wind chimes, trinkets, or fix that preverbial lawnmower deck.

    Being pragmatic and argumentative with those who KNOW the trade does nothing for your learning curve. This isn't a software forum. If you make a design error in software, a computer "crash" won't mame anybody.
    Actually computer errors could wipe out entire cities power grids, cause a whole city to be destroyed, destroy billions of dollars in financial transactions and even, yes, hurt someone personally. Failures in computer programs are far more dangerous than a weld breaking.

    The reality is that I haven't been argumentative. There are some great helpful people here like Sonora and Pss N Gas and a others. However, there are also many people here that are elitists who seem to believe they are raised higher than mortal man by the fact that they are a *gasp* professional welder. The reality is that they know a trade pretty well, though there is always someone that knows it better, and they can answer a few questions. That just makes them useful to others, not gods. If you ask me a question on Java, I wont act like you are a complete moron for asking the question and not knowing the answer. I will simply answer the question. Even if you asked me a question about something that could lead to a dangerous situation, I would merely calmly explain why it was a bad idea and back it up with fact.

    If someone asks a question here there is a toss up between whether you will get a useful answer or someone will say "OMG you suck that you don't know that, never touch another piece of metal again you moron." If Sonora or Pass N Gas answer you, you will likely get useful information backed up by facts, references or pictures. If some others, who I wont name, answer you, you will likely get their ego self-stroking of the day. They are behind the internet, behind the cloak of anonymity and many people react to that by being jerks. And god forbid if you step on their own pissing ground as I did with my opinion of MIG welding. Instead of disagreeing, many people take the tact of trying to destroy anyone that disagrees. I know at least 3 professional welders with dozens of years of experience that share my opinion of MIG welding and in fact influenced my opinion but that doesn't matter if you tread on someone's pissing ground.

    This dynamic is no different than any other forum I have seen on the internet. That is why I largely dismiss the annoying elitist, know-it-all people without a second thought. Sometimes it is amusing that they have the arrogance to think that they can affect my life when they are, in the end, just some anonymous person across the internet with absolutely no effect on my life.

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  • davedarragh
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    Originally posted by kraythe View Post
    so what I ask about is not critical to my livelihood. However, in the end for me its just a hobby.
    Kraythe: Having said that, the many things you ask ARE critical to not only YOUR SAFETY, but the SAFETY of others.

    Asking for the design thresholds of your many quests, is more than a mere hobby. Hobby welding is making wind chimes, trinkets, or fix that preverbial lawnmower deck.

    Being pragmatic and argumentative with those who KNOW the trade does nothing for your learning curve. This isn't a software forum. If you make a design error in software, a computer "crash" won't mame anybody.

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  • Sonora Iron
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    Doesn’t matter where it falls on your priority list, you still want what we have.
    You want in 5-minutes on the computer, what’s taken us years to obtain!
    OK, so you can read X’s and O’s, so it might behoove you to pick a few books out of Lincoln’s library and start reading. Because you have an annoying way of asking for help from people who do this for a living.

    https://ssl.lincolnelectric.com/linc...p?PID=16&cat=8

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  • kraythe
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    Originally posted by Sonora Iron View Post
    No, you have it wrong! I, and a few others here have something you want.
    But in my case I am a professional software engineer and author so what I ask about is not critical to my livelihood. I appreciate those that answer my questions and an I enjoy listening to other's opinions when expressed maturely. However, in the end for me its just a hobby.

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  • Sonora Iron
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    Originally posted by kraythe View Post
    Oh now there you have it wrong.
    No, you have it wrong! I, and a few others here have something you want.

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  • Sonora Iron
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    Originally posted by kraythe View Post
    Perhaps. I never thought that was especially a bad thing. Thinking is a good thing. Asking, learning, exploring, questioning are all the sources of knowledge in the world.

    Now you personally Sonora dont seem to be one of those hostile people that inhabit this and other forums so I will take it as a bit of gentle ribbing and thank you for the link.

    However, there are here some who believe they know it all. I am not one of those. I enjoy learning and at times that requires asking questions. Other people are so insecure that they cant admit to not knowing anything. These people are usually the forum flamers. They boost their own self-confidence by trying to hurt others. That has always been an alien thought to me. Fortunately I am immune to the hostile rantings of anonymous people I will never meet.
    You have to remember we come from a different life style than some of you.

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