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  • how would u build a boat ?

    ok boys need some ideas.
    how would u build a cheap flat bottom jon boat.
    I am disabled vet short on money and know how.

    what would be cheap aluminum,tin or what would be good/cheap

    what kind of welder could i use ? / cheap ?

    the boat would need to be 16 foot and atleast 60 inchs across.

  • #2
    I think Id be looking at marine grade plywood, and fiberglass.
    Material cost is less, and tool up will be a whole lot less!
    Caution!
    These are "my" views based only on my experiences in my little bitty world.

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    • #3
      boat

      if i were you i would buy a used boat.

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      • #4
        man u taking all the fun out of it with wood.

        what about strong barn tin ?
        and a tig welder ?

        40 years ago we made one out of pickup hoods worked great .

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RGO View Post
          man u taking all the fun out of it with wood.

          what about strong barn tin ?
          and a tig welder ?

          40 years ago we made one out of pickup hoods worked great .
          You were the one wanting to do it on the cheap. There is nothing cheap / inexpensive about welding / metal fabrication!

          To start with: Id draw up my design; get a parts breakdown with measurements. Shop for the best price to have all the material sheared.
          If you have your heart set on aluminum, look into a small 200-amp Mig machine with a spool gun.
          Caution!
          These are "my" views based only on my experiences in my little bitty world.

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          • #6
            All you have to do is order the material and cut out the correct shapes.
            Tack it all together first and then weld it.
            Your sizes chosen would be very nice. I would use .100 5052 aluminum.
            You would be fine using the MM211 with the spoolgun.
            You will probably have $2500-3000 invested by the time you are finished but when done you will still have the machine and can make more for you buddies.
            Make 3 and you should be able to just about break even
            Send pics as you go and keep us posted.
            BTW.....B.O.A.T. stands for break out another thousand, so forget cheap altho what I have shown you would be resonable and strong as he!! if you can fabricate worth a hoot

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            • #7
              I would look for used boat also.

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              • #8
                Sheetmetal and some light sq tubing. But since i was a sheetmetal worker that would be like a giant piece of duct work with the top cut out...Bob
                Bob Wright

                Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
                http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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                • #9
                  Steel would be a crappy material for a SMALL boat that needs to be moved by hand.... by the time you made it lightweight enuff to handle it would be flimsy. And it can rust unless you dipped in paint or galvanize afterward.
                  That is why they make them out of aluminum.
                  Fiberglass and wood are also much heavier as well.
                  Big boats are a different story altogether.

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                  MM 350P...PULSE SPRAYIN' MONSTER
                  Miller Dynasty 280 with AC independent expansion card
                  Miller Dynasty 200 DX "Blue Lightning"

                  Miller Bobcat 225 NT (what I began my present Biz with!)
                  Miller 30-A Spoolgun
                  Miller WC-115-A
                  Miller Spectrum 300
                  Miller 225 Thunderbolt (my first machine bought new 1980)
                  Miller Digital Elite Titanium 9400

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FusionKing View Post
                    Steel would be a crappy material for a SMALL boat that needs to be moved by hand.... by the time you made it lightweight enuff to handle it would be flimsy. And it can rust unless you dipped in paint or galvanize afterward.
                    Yup you are right but when you put "U" and "cheap" in the same sentence thats how "I" would do it with what i have the resources for. Now if he said how should "I" build a good boat for x amount of bucks i would have a different answer. I worked in an old plant that made small steel boats many years ago and i saw how they were made so i could do one and it would be made from Galv sheet just like the duct work i welded for 12 hours a day at one time. Just my thoughts yours will be different.
                    Of coures mine wouldn't be this pretty but some good reading here... Bob
                    http://www.speedboatclassics.com/mul...teel_boats.htm
                    Bob Wright

                    Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
                    http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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                    • #11
                      I use to have a neighbor who could come home from work on a Friday night with materials in his pickup, build one of these from start to finish. By the next morning he would be setting in the swamp with his 12-gauge waiting for daylight!

                      http://www.unclejohns.com/boat/
                      Caution!
                      These are "my" views based only on my experiences in my little bitty world.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aametalmaster View Post
                        Yup you are right but when you put "U" and "cheap" in the same sentence thats how "I" would do it with what i have the resources for. Now if he said how should "I" build a good boat for x amount of bucks i would have a different answer. I worked in an old plant that made small steel boats many years ago and i saw how they were made so i could do one and it would be made from Galv sheet just like the duct work i welded for 12 hours a day at one time. Just my thoughts yours will be different.
                        Of coures mine wouldn't be this pretty but some good reading here... Bob
                        http://www.speedboatclassics.com/mul...teel_boats.htm
                        Man......that's freekin' Sweet
                        I'll need to read that over again real slow. Thanks

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                        MM 350P...PULSE SPRAYIN' MONSTER
                        Miller Dynasty 280 with AC independent expansion card
                        Miller Dynasty 200 DX "Blue Lightning"

                        Miller Bobcat 225 NT (what I began my present Biz with!)
                        Miller 30-A Spoolgun
                        Miller WC-115-A
                        Miller Spectrum 300
                        Miller 225 Thunderbolt (my first machine bought new 1980)
                        Miller Digital Elite Titanium 9400

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                        • #13
                          1st boat?

                          GOOD

                          FAST

                          CHEAP

                          You can pick any two. But the other one won't fit in the equation. I wish I could say I made it up. But somebody else told it to me and it's been printed on thousands of placards for display in many an office. Needless to say it's still true.

                          How "cheap" do you want to make a boat that you would ride in? Or your family members? Better you make this one pretty well, I think.

                          Some one spooling up for the first time on aluminum and attempting to make a safe boat in the process of learning to weld aluminum....well that seems to me a bit of a stretch. Good luck with it, though.
                          Mustangs Forever!

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                          • #14
                            Cheapest?
                            Put the word out that you're looking for a old boat that doesn't run,
                            be patient, and people will give them to ya just for hauling them out of their yard.

                            Most will be fiberglass with a rotten floor & transom, and on trailers that have sunk into the ground.
                            But a couple sheets of plywood, new tires & a paint job-- ya got a boat.

                            I've also seen decent looking Alum. boats in the scrap yard.
                            They normally sell for about 1 & 1/2 times what the scrap dealer paid for them.

                            Another source is the auctions they have at the larger Goodwill stores.
                            I've seen old but quite 'fixable' boats sell for $1-200, trailer included.

                            .
                            Last edited by Winger Ed.; 01-29-2010, 01:16 AM.
                            "Gone are the days of wooden ships, and Iron men.
                            I doubt we'll see either of their likes again".

                            Circa 1920.
                            Author:
                            Unknown US Coast Guard unit Commander.

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                            • #15
                              how would u build a boat ?

                              RGO,

                              I think this is a larger aluminum boat than you are asking about, but I think this is an interesting read.

                              http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=29094

                              Have a good read,

                              Jerel

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