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  • Roller Stand Project for Ellis Bandsaw

    I'm finally getting around to building roller tables for my Ellis 1800. I ordered 1.9" x 18" rollers from Surplas Center. My left side stand will be 14' with rollers on 12" centers. The right side will be 8' long also with rollers on 12" centers.

    The wall my saw sits against is about 36 feet long, so I have plenty of room on both sides of the saw. I plan to bolt the roller tables down to the floor along with the saw. One thing I plan to do is build a frame underneath the saw to raise it up 8" to a more comfortable working height. I've been using the saw set up on blocks to get used to the higher working height and I like it much better.

    I also plan to buy the measuring tape that you peel and stick onto the roller frame to help measure for cuts. That and I will integrate an adjustable stop into the frame for repeating cuts. Perhaps I can figure out a way to reuse the stop the saw comes with.

    I'm looking for feedback on things to do/not to do from those who have built similar tables, so any comments are welcomed.

    Thanks
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  • #2
    Originally posted by garybdavis View Post
    I'm finally getting around to building roller tables for my Ellis 1800. I ordered 1.9" x 18" rollers from Surplas Center. My left side stand will be 14' with rollers on 12" centers. The right side will be 8' long also with rollers on 12" centers.

    The wall my saw sits against is about 36 feet long, so I have plenty of room on both sides of the saw. I plan to bolt the roller tables down to the floor along with the saw. One thing I plan to do is build a frame underneath the saw to raise it up 8" to a more comfortable working height. I've been using the saw set up on blocks to get used to the higher working height and I like it much better.

    I also plan to buy the measuring tape that you peel and stick onto the roller frame to help measure for cuts. That and I will integrate an adjustable stop into the frame for repeating cuts. Perhaps I can figure out a way to reuse the stop the saw comes with.

    I'm looking for feedback on things to do/not to do from those who have built similar tables, so any comments are welcomed.

    Thanks
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    • #3
      Okay, the rollers came in so I'm ready to get started. I went to order the adhesive measuring tape from woodworker’s supply and got caught up in the rail systems they sell for miter saws. Kreg brand seems to be the most popular. They have aluminum rails with a recessed track to install the tape and a stop block that locks in to the rail with a sight glass that goes over the tape measure. I was thinking about getting one of these and bolting it onto the back side of my roller stand. Anyone integrate something like this into a similar project? I could use a recommendation on Kreg or any other brand. Something that is fairly heavy duty and not too flimsy.
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      Ellis 1800
      Smith & Victor Torches
      Optrel Satellite
      Arcair K4000
      Ingersoll-Rand 175CFM Diesel Air Compressor
      Home Made Welding Trailer

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      • #4
        I believe you might end up happier and get the job done much more cheaply using both the adhesive backed tape as well as utilizing the Ellis style stop rod for your roller table. Even recessed into the back/top of your roller table the aluminum track is not going to live a long and healthy life if you do much cutting on steel unless you bring out the kid gloves...just too much weight and mass to deal with.
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        • #5
          If or when you build this stand I’m interested in how you build it to compensate for the swing of the motor, and the flatbar radius kill bar. I built one for my Ellis, and I’m not satisfied at all! Even though it’s working fine, there has to be some better ideas out there! I’ am looking forward to see how you build yours.
          Last edited by Sonora Iron; 12-03-2009, 11:36 AM.
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          • #6
            What we did for a stop setup on a Haberle cold saw was on the back side of the roller table we mounted a pc. of uni-strut laying on it's side. Cut a block to fit inside that slid easily & had a tapped hole. Then a pc. of 2x2 angle on the outside which would bolt to the block. When tightened it would lock in place. One leg of the angle pointed away from the uni-strut & this is what the material would hit as a stop.
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            • #7
              Good feedback. I think the aluminum rail would get beat up a bit and I like the unistrut idea. I could put the adhesive on top of it where it wouldn't get too scratched up. Anyone want to post some pics of their roller stand/tables? Good or bad, it helps to see what others have done.
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              Smith & Victor Torches
              Optrel Satellite
              Arcair K4000
              Ingersoll-Rand 175CFM Diesel Air Compressor
              Home Made Welding Trailer

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              • #8
                Originally posted by garybdavis View Post
                Anyone want to post some pics of their roller stand/tables? Good or bad, it helps to see what others have done.



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                These are "my" views based only on “my” experiences in “my” little bitty world.

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                • #9
                  Jesus,

                  Thanks for the pics. I plan to leave a gap between the roller stand and the saw, at least on the left side, to give me reach in room for the swivel adjustment and to operate the hydraulic up/down control. I'm still undecided about leaving a gap on the right side or bringing the table all the way up to the saw table. Is that the issues you have?
                  Millermatic 35
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                  Ellis 1800
                  Smith & Victor Torches
                  Optrel Satellite
                  Arcair K4000
                  Ingersoll-Rand 175CFM Diesel Air Compressor
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by garybdavis View Post
                    I plan to leave a gap between the roller stand and the saw
                    Oh yeah take the easy route!
                    The part I don’t like about mine is the notch, (red arrow). The other part is the flatbar radius kill bar, (purple arrow) I thought about cutting it the width of the square tube I used for the table so I could move the table over and utilize more of my 12 inch rollers. But with almost 3 years of use it hasn’t been an issue yet. As you can tell I never was happy with my design or I would have painted it! When needed I have 6 or 8 portable roller jack stands I use on either side of the saw as needed?
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                    • #11
                      You guys might want to put an angle iron for a way to line up your material on a 90 degree to your bandsaw. Something to push on before rolling it in your saw.

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                      • #12
                        I use to work at A machining shop and at the band saw we had 20 feet of rollers they were all home made put togather with pipe and bearngs

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                        • #13
                          I've got to cut the bolt down plates off the rear legs of the Ellis saw and weld on some that face the sides. Anyone have a source for that funky paint they use? That's the biggest issue I have left - deciding what color to paint my roller table. Nothing seems to go with the Ellis paint color. What do you call that color anyway?
                          Millermatic 35
                          Miller TB302G
                          Ellis 1800
                          Smith & Victor Torches
                          Optrel Satellite
                          Arcair K4000
                          Ingersoll-Rand 175CFM Diesel Air Compressor
                          Home Made Welding Trailer

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by garybdavis View Post
                            What do you call that color anyway?
                            Green!


                            Call Ellis, I’ll bet they’ll send you a pint! They are the nicest people to deal with!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sonora Iron View Post
                              Green!


                              Call Ellis, I’ll bet they’ll send you a pint! They are the nicest people to deal with!
                              The Ellis guys arent always friendly on the phone. I had two 1600's(one month old) and one was cutting in on the down stroke a little and I called them about it. The guy on the phone told me the blade wasnt tight enough. I told him it was as tight as anyone could do(I'm 270 with 14.5" forearms) without a cheater on the handle. After a bit of checking with machinist squares we found the assembly that holds the front guide bearing was out square with the frame. About .040 of shims fixed it right up. It has cut square for 5 years now.

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