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  • #16
    "Tanked-Up"

    Originally posted by tnjind View Post
    Yeah,
    I think the cost will be prohibitive,
    The customer specs the tank, not me. I would use a poly tank myself.
    Weight will not be a problem.

    We discussed this last night, still want to pursue this.
    Thank you.
    You going to need a vent to prevent collapse? I think they run those off "garden hose" pressure.

    Dave
    "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by davedarragh View Post
      You going to need a vent to prevent collapse? I think they run those off "garden hose" pressure.

      Dave
      The tank will be plumbed to the outside of the truck and vented there also.
      Tim Beeker,
      T-N-J Industries
      (my side bussiness)

      Miller Synchrowave 350LX with tigrunner
      Esab 450i with wire feeder
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      Marathon 315mm coldsaw
      vertical and horizontal band saws
      table saw
      Dewalt cut off saw
      Sand blast cabinet
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      • #18
        "Nice Shiny Tank"

        Originally posted by tnjind View Post
        The tank will be plumbed to the outside of the truck and vented there also.
        Sounds like an interesting project. You going to pulse MIG, Spool Gun, or TIG it? Be sure and post some pics when you're done.

        Dave
        "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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        • #19
          Unfortunately the only thing I have to use on aluminum is tig. It's gonna be slow going.

          I am looking for a reasonably priced spoolgun.
          Tim Beeker,
          T-N-J Industries
          (my side bussiness)

          Miller Synchrowave 350LX with tigrunner
          Esab 450i with wire feeder
          HH135 mig
          Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 51 plasma cutter
          Miller aircrafter 330 - sold
          Marathon 315mm coldsaw
          vertical and horizontal band saws
          table saw
          Dewalt cut off saw
          Sand blast cabinet
          lots of hand grinders
          Harris torch
          beer fridge

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          • #20
            We actually made an aluminum tank/ work bench for a guy once. It holds oil from an electrical transformer. I can't remember if it was 3/16 or 1/4 inch but all of the bending and tapered bottom made it very strong. It was about 8' wide, 3' deep and over 3' tall. We mig welded it up with a spool gun, it worked really well.
            But that tank was small compared to the next one I built for the same guy!
            It mounted under an old reefer trailer that they converted into a processing plant (where the bench tank went).
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            • #21
              Wow CW,
              Good work, what was the second tank for? size?
              Tim Beeker,
              T-N-J Industries
              (my side bussiness)

              Miller Synchrowave 350LX with tigrunner
              Esab 450i with wire feeder
              HH135 mig
              Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 51 plasma cutter
              Miller aircrafter 330 - sold
              Marathon 315mm coldsaw
              vertical and horizontal band saws
              table saw
              Dewalt cut off saw
              Sand blast cabinet
              lots of hand grinders
              Harris torch
              beer fridge

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              • #22
                Definitely use 1/4" 6061 plate, NO smaller. I would also use 3 baffles. Weld it with 1/8" 4043 filler rod.
                -Kevin
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                • #23
                  Thickness could depend on what you have in the way of metal bending stuff.
                  If all you can do is just make it slab sided then thicker would be better.
                  Baffles can be very tricky to weld in with a tig. They will need "feet" made on them. Good design will help a bunch. I have seen baffles busted loose in big boat gas tanks.
                  I would use 5052 for this because it is designed for corrosion resistance unless someone here has a better reason. All sorts of fuel tanks are made with this as well as most fresh water boats. Then you could also use 5356 filler.
                  5086 could be a better choice for material as well. It has even better chemical resistance properties. Not sure if you would use any additives in this application. I barely know my job it seems at times.
                  I would spend some time thinking about which hardness also.
                  You could re-enforce the corners with angle and even weld ribs to the sides and make the bottom so it was forkable.

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                  • #24
                    Thank you for the response, alot to think about.
                    Tim Beeker,
                    T-N-J Industries
                    (my side bussiness)

                    Miller Synchrowave 350LX with tigrunner
                    Esab 450i with wire feeder
                    HH135 mig
                    Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 51 plasma cutter
                    Miller aircrafter 330 - sold
                    Marathon 315mm coldsaw
                    vertical and horizontal band saws
                    table saw
                    Dewalt cut off saw
                    Sand blast cabinet
                    lots of hand grinders
                    Harris torch
                    beer fridge

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                    • #25
                      So where are we with this project?

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                      Miller Dynasty 280 with AC independent expansion card
                      Miller Dynasty 200 DX "Blue Lightning"

                      Miller Bobcat 225 NT (what I began my present Biz with!)
                      Miller 30-A Spoolgun
                      Miller WC-115-A
                      Miller Spectrum 300
                      Miller 225 Thunderbolt (my first machine bought new 1980)
                      Miller Digital Elite Titanium 9400

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                      • #26
                        Still in the talking stage. The customer has been busy and I have been to.

                        I was at his place last night, still on the fence.
                        Tim Beeker,
                        T-N-J Industries
                        (my side bussiness)

                        Miller Synchrowave 350LX with tigrunner
                        Esab 450i with wire feeder
                        HH135 mig
                        Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 51 plasma cutter
                        Miller aircrafter 330 - sold
                        Marathon 315mm coldsaw
                        vertical and horizontal band saws
                        table saw
                        Dewalt cut off saw
                        Sand blast cabinet
                        lots of hand grinders
                        Harris torch
                        beer fridge

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tnjind View Post
                          Still in the talking stage. The customer has been busy and I have been to.

                          I was at his place last night, still on the fence.
                          Yea I know all about that kinda stuff. Sounds like you might wanna find a way to make it fit his budget and still be nice.
                          Ordering the metal already cut to size and bent into 2 channel shapes so it all fits together helps me get the price down. You could use 5052 H-14 and then weld a rib around the perimeter. Maybe use a couple of pieces of channel on the bottom as well.
                          You do need a spoolgun for this tho (in a few key spots) IMO. Otherwise you will need to give a ton of thought about the assembly sequence. Or the design. The baffles can be tricky to weld to the slab sides when the metal grows all funky shaped. Clamping and tacking is very important here.
                          Knowing when to stop welding and cut stuff back apart is a thing you learn from exp. I can tell now much sooner when bad stuff is gonna happen than say 10 years back

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                          Miller Dynasty 700...OH YEA BABY!!
                          MM 350P...PULSE SPRAYIN' MONSTER
                          Miller Dynasty 280 with AC independent expansion card
                          Miller Dynasty 200 DX "Blue Lightning"

                          Miller Bobcat 225 NT (what I began my present Biz with!)
                          Miller 30-A Spoolgun
                          Miller WC-115-A
                          Miller Spectrum 300
                          Miller 225 Thunderbolt (my first machine bought new 1980)
                          Miller Digital Elite Titanium 9400

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                          • #28
                            You are a wealth of information. I gotta say I am kinda nervous about this, but I am sure I can do it.

                            Yes a spool gun would be nice I am looking for one.
                            Tim Beeker,
                            T-N-J Industries
                            (my side bussiness)

                            Miller Synchrowave 350LX with tigrunner
                            Esab 450i with wire feeder
                            HH135 mig
                            Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 51 plasma cutter
                            Miller aircrafter 330 - sold
                            Marathon 315mm coldsaw
                            vertical and horizontal band saws
                            table saw
                            Dewalt cut off saw
                            Sand blast cabinet
                            lots of hand grinders
                            Harris torch
                            beer fridge

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                            • #29
                              You can . . .

                              You can buy a plastic tank with a steel wire cage for far less than you will ever build that tank . . .

                              Steve
                              Millermatic 251
                              Lincoln AC/DC "Tombstone"
                              Milwaulkee Grinder 4 1/2"
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Wacko Welder View Post
                                You can buy a plastic tank with a steel wire cage for far less than you will ever build that tank . . .

                                Steve
                                Yes, I know. I just purchased a 375 gallon plastic tote for hydraulic oil for $175.

                                The customer wants it made out of aluminum and a specific shape to make the best use out of the room in the box truck.
                                There is no doubt that this will be expensive.
                                Tim Beeker,
                                T-N-J Industries
                                (my side bussiness)

                                Miller Synchrowave 350LX with tigrunner
                                Esab 450i with wire feeder
                                HH135 mig
                                Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 51 plasma cutter
                                Miller aircrafter 330 - sold
                                Marathon 315mm coldsaw
                                vertical and horizontal band saws
                                table saw
                                Dewalt cut off saw
                                Sand blast cabinet
                                lots of hand grinders
                                Harris torch
                                beer fridge

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