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  • Finally got to use my brake today.

    I am making a tote tray for the dies that fit my Hossfeld type bender.
    And a little room for making additional dies in the future. Sure I could
    have bought a cheap little spot welded tray but the dies get heavy
    quick. I marked up a piece if 1/8" sheet and cut out the scrap from the corners.



    Next it went to the bender to fold the long sides.



    The bender did a decent job on the bends. Since I cut the bevel by
    hand with a grinder, and it is not perfect. I on the other hand almost
    didn't have enough giddy up to make the bend. I think I need a longer cheater for anything heavier. I am very confident that it will bend
    3/16" x 20" to well past a 90.




    I cheated on the ends and scored half way thru the sheet to make
    it easier to bend.

    I got the corners welded up and a handle welded in. I forgot to take
    pics before I started painting it, so the rest of the pics will have to
    wait till tomorrow.

    Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
    Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
    Clarke 180 EN Just in case
    Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
    O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
    Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
    4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
    Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
    Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
    I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


    Projects and Misc Albums
    http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

  • #2
    Tom....In the pic it looks like the bend has quite a radius. Did it slip during bending. Looking back at your construction photos, it appears the top material clamp with the ground angle is set too far back which would explain the rounded bend but I can't tell where it is set in these photos. It looks to be adjustable.
    Nick
    Nick
    Miller 252 Mig
    Miller Cricket XL
    Millermatic 150 Mig
    Miller Syncrowave 200 Tig
    2-O/A outfits
    Jet Lathe and Mill
    Jet 7x12 horz/vert band saw
    DeWalt Multi Cutter metal saw
    Century 50 Amp Plasma Cutter
    20 ton electric/hydraulic vertical press
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    • #3
      As a rookie to metal work I have never used a brake.My question is,How are you going to bend up the short sides,wont the long sides hit the brake and interfere with getting a complete bend on the ends?Thanks Mike

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      • #4
        Good Eye Monte.

        Yes the radius is a bit more then I would like. Yes and No on the slip issue , it seems that I forgot to snug the adjuster bolts against the back side before I made my bend. At that point I figured it would look silly with one good bend and one poor bend, so I left things where they were for the second bend.

        Naturally the brake was to small since I wanted to clamp the large side and bend the edge. Not sure if that really matters but in my head it would be easier to line up my edge. Also my edges are not 100 percent true. All in all I am happy with it. There is a few things I could do different next time.

        crawdaddy, I cheated on the short sides. I took my 7 inch grinder and scored a line on the inside about 1/16" deep and then I was able to bend it by hand. After the corners were welded up I laid a 2" bead in the center of the score line.



        Here is one of the tray painted.


        Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
        Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
        Clarke 180 EN Just in case
        Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
        O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
        Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
        4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
        Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
        Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
        I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


        Projects and Misc Albums
        http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

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        • #5
          I made yet another tray, this one is to stay on the weld table for
          catching stray nuts and bolts. Before this I have used a small throw
          away cooking tray. Not a pretty sight when you try to pick it up.



          Monte, you caught the fact that the last tray had a large radius
          bend. I set my adjusters as tight as I could and still didn't get a
          great bend. Do you think that I am asking to much to get a really
          tight bend on 1/8"?



          On this tray I cheated and used backer rod in the corners since I
          must have measured and marked wrong. It made welding the corners
          a breeze.


          Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
          Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
          Clarke 180 EN Just in case
          Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
          O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
          Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
          4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
          Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
          Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
          I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


          Projects and Misc Albums
          http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

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          • #6
            Can you show a close up of the brake from the front with the top clamped down but with no material in it. Have the handle down in one pic and up at 12:00 in another Take different views. Some from the side.
            Nick
            Nick
            Miller 252 Mig
            Miller Cricket XL
            Millermatic 150 Mig
            Miller Syncrowave 200 Tig
            2-O/A outfits
            Jet Lathe and Mill
            Jet 7x12 horz/vert band saw
            DeWalt Multi Cutter metal saw
            Century 50 Amp Plasma Cutter
            20 ton electric/hydraulic vertical press
            Propane Forge
            60" X 60" router/plasma table

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTu7wicVCmQ
            Vist my site: www.nixstuff.com
            and check out some of my ironwork and other stuff

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            • #7
              Here is one of the pics Monte. I dont want to flood the site with a ton of pics of the same thing.



              Here is the album that they are in.

              http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfrie...eat=directlink

              Thanks for taking the time to check it out Monte.

              Tom

              Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
              Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
              Clarke 180 EN Just in case
              Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
              O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
              Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
              4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
              Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
              Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
              I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


              Projects and Misc Albums
              http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

              Comment


              • #8
                It looks like the edge of the top has a blunt edge. You won't get a crisp bend with a blunt edge. The problen with the bend on your box looks like the material was too far away from the bender part. I should know the names of these parts but I can't think of them now. The bending force needs to be applied as close to the bend line as possible. If it's higher, the material will bend in a rounded shape like yours did. You said you had forgot to adjust the part forward. Have you tried another bend since with the 1/8".
                Nick
                Miller 252 Mig
                Miller Cricket XL
                Millermatic 150 Mig
                Miller Syncrowave 200 Tig
                2-O/A outfits
                Jet Lathe and Mill
                Jet 7x12 horz/vert band saw
                DeWalt Multi Cutter metal saw
                Century 50 Amp Plasma Cutter
                20 ton electric/hydraulic vertical press
                Propane Forge
                60" X 60" router/plasma table

                www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTu7wicVCmQ
                Vist my site: www.nixstuff.com
                and check out some of my ironwork and other stuff

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                • #9
                  Yes there is a, say in the neighborhood if 1/8" blunt edge. I was worried that a knife edge would roll with the metal being bent. Today I used a small scrap and held the brake at 90 degrees, like it would be after the bend, with the scrap as a guide to set the leaf. I just didn't expect the extra force it took to make the bend to 90 nice and tight.

                  Tonight I also did some 14 or 16 gauge aluminum. By gol lee it turned out really nice. I know its light weight but it turned out really good.

                  Keep an eye out monte, with this aluminum I am going to jump into my very first spool gun venture. To make trays and dividers for my tool box. I will make a post and put a pic of my very first aluminum weld. I am sure it will entertain a few people. I hope to have a pure argon bottle by this time next week.

                  Thanks and I hope ya have a great weekend.
                  Tom

                  Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
                  Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
                  Clarke 180 EN Just in case
                  Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
                  O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
                  Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
                  4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
                  Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
                  Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
                  I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


                  Projects and Misc Albums
                  http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    bender brake

                    can i ask how you made that brake. i have been looking for plans to make one , with no luck, i would appreciate it very much.

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                    • #11
                      Sure thing welderIVlife,

                      I surfed around for a while looking and looking, then during the winter boredom I just started building. I sorta made the 3-d thing as I went. I think the most important part is to keep the plane the same where the two bolts hinge the brake. Most of mine is 1/4" plate, but the leaf is 1/2" AR plate that came from the scrap pile at work. I did the bevel on it with the grinder and should have not left the 1/8" at the bend edge. Maybe 1/16" would have been better, for a better corner but I was scared that it would chip. Since I do not have a mill or a very good drill press, I used 1/2" bolts and a piece of DOM with an inside dia just a fuzz larger. And a piece of angle to line the pivot point. Then cut the space for the handle to fit after it was all welded. I wasted a few inch's but it was the easiest way for me to get it all straight.

                      Here is one of the 3-d pics I did for it.




                      Here is the site that has all my bender pics, if you would like to take a look. I believe that if you choose the dwg or the sketch up file, that you can download the actual file and use it in the 3-d program that it goes with.

                      http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend/BenderBrake#
                      Attached Files

                      Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
                      Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
                      Clarke 180 EN Just in case
                      Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
                      O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
                      Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
                      4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
                      Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
                      Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
                      I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


                      Projects and Misc Albums
                      http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

                      Comment

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