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  • My Weld Cart Just Got an Upgrade.

    Here is my cart with the latest addition.



    This was a tough decision to make. The Passport Plus or the 211. I ended up with the 211 since it has just a little more in the top end. The price was considerably less, allowing me to try the spool gun on aluminum. It does weigh in heavier but I can live with that. Now I don't know enough about the Passport feature ( soft arc/ crisp arc ), but the 211 does not have that option.

    Even tho the cart was not built for this welder, it only took a few minutes to make things right. Per opening the door.

    I only had time for a couple quick welds, but I just couldn't unpack it and not use it at all. The A.S. seemed a little hot but that is probably just me. I didn't buy it for that feature but it may be handy for a quick little weld here and there.

    In this pick, can you see the low pressure side of the regulator? When I weld it drops to 15 and when I release the trigger it slowly rises to the max. The old cheep HF regulator didn't do this unless I really turned up the flow. Over 25. I dont think this is normal but maybe someone can enlighten me on this topic.



    Almost forgot the spool gun.


    Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
    Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
    Clarke 180 EN Just in case
    Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
    O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
    Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
    4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
    Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
    Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
    I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


    Projects and Misc Albums
    http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

  • #2
    Did you set the gas as per the owner's manual? Release the wire feed clamp so wire doesn't feed, and adjust the cfh while the trigger is pulled. Quick and doesn't waste an appreciable amount of gas.

    I did notice that my regulator went high also but this was after turning the tank off. Easy fix. Turned my machine on and bumped the trigger. This was enough to drop the regulator to 0.

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    • #3
      Thanks Old Sporty,

      I did read the manual but it didn't tell me anything special to do. It just says like you did release the tension on the wire to set flow. Normal starting point is 20 ish. I did set it with the gas flowing but when I am off the trigger and watch, it will slowly rise until its pegged.

      As far as the needle going high right before the gas runs out, well my old reg did that. I just didn't really like the idea of the high reading while the bottle is on and I am not welding.

      FYI the time stamp in my pics is not correct, and someday I will take the time to fix the camera.
      Last edited by tom37; 08-08-2009, 05:45 PM. Reason: I just had a small brain fart and forgot something.

      Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
      Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
      Clarke 180 EN Just in case
      Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
      O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
      Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
      4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
      Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
      Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
      I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


      Projects and Misc Albums
      http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

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      • #4
        The reg going high like that seems like the valve in the regulator is not doing its job and shutting off, since it is new I would take the regulator right back to the store or call Miller and get it replace (should cost you nothing at this point). But that is not right for that regulator, I own 2 of that style and neither does that.

        -Dan
        Owner
        DW Metalworks LLC
        Miller Trailblazer 302
        Miller 8RC Feeder
        Miller Passport Plus
        Miller Dynasty 200 DX W/Coolmate 1
        Hobart Handler 135
        Hypertherm PowerMAX 30
        Smith O/A Torch Set
        Plus more tools then my wife will ever know about....

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        • #5
          Well, if this is in fact a bad regulator, then we've both got them. I will try the regulator from the unit I'm returning and see if it does the same thing. If it does, then I'll call Miller tomorrow and find out what's going on. With the damage trouble I've had getting my MM211, I'm not going to be real happy if this new machine has to go in the shop for repairs.

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          • #6
            I switched regulators, and now the pressure in the low side does not climb either when the machine is idling or shut off. Must have been a bad batch of regulators from Smith.

            Tom37 - I guess you'll need to get your vendor to trade it out for you.

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            • #7
              Thank You engnerdan, I didn't think it was right but I wanted a couple views, before I went back to the LWS. Thinking now I believe that I will also call customer support as Old Sporty did. Thank you also Sporty.

              I didn't have time today to play. Priority's came into play, I had to hang banners for the Kansas City ****** Cancer walk. I never realized it but 25 to 30 thousand persons in one place is A LOT of people. And not one of them had anything less then a big smile on there face. Anyways I will find time to check the 211 out later this week.

              Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
              Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
              Clarke 180 EN Just in case
              Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
              O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
              Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
              4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
              Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
              Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
              I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


              Projects and Misc Albums
              http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

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              • #8
                Bad Regulator !!

                Originally posted by tom37 View Post
                Thank You engnerdan, I didn't think it was right but I wanted a couple views, before I went back to the LWS. Thinking now I believe that I will also call customer support as Old Sporty did. Thank you also Sporty.

                I didn't have time today to play. Priority's came into play, I had to hang banners for the Kansas City ****** Cancer walk. I never realized it but 25 to 30 thousand persons in one place is A LOT of people. And not one of them had anything less then a big smile on there face. Anyways I will find time to check the 211 out later this week.
                Tom Hello;

                Yep, You have a bad regulator.
                Congrats on volunteering for such a great cause !!

                ........... Norm
                - Arcair- K 4000 CAC.
                - LN - 25
                - Lincoln Ranger 8
                -DeWalt Compressor

                www.normsmobilewelding.blogspot.com

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                • #9
                  very very nice

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                  • #10
                    Mm211

                    I am also thinking about getting the 211. Let me know how you like it, I have only heard good things. I really like the option of 120 and 240 cause I dont think I will have 240 most of the time, but I only plan on using it for small projects.

                    Good looking cart by the way, it will be my first of many projects hopefully.
                    Welding Engineering Student

                    Hobart Champion 4500
                    (Hopefully adding MM211 soon )

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                    • #11
                      Almost forgot the spool gun.

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                      Tom37 - Let me know how you like the spool gun, please. I'm thinking of getting one myself even though I have a Tig outfit. Would make it quicker to weld some larger pieces.

                      Best of luck on the regulator. As I said, I solved my problem by switching regulators. Now all is good and so far, I really like the 211. Only thing that struck me was when I pulled everything out and started setting it up was the "Made in China" stamp on the work clamp. Come on Miller. Charge me a couple of extra bucks and put in a "Made in the USA" clamp.

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                      • #12
                        The reg is defiantly bad!!! I didn't have a chance to call today, but I did mess with it after work tonight. If I have the low pressure backed all the way out and open the bottle ( per the book ) for a time of 5 to 10 minutes to test for leaks, I find that the low side will rise all the way until the needle hits the stopper.

                        Thank You M K Swelding


                        Osu, As soon as I get a chance I will post pics of it in use. ( Beads that is )

                        I sure hope I dont end up disappointed. I chose the 211 instead of the passport due to the slightly higher duty cycle and the slightly higher amps.
                        Dont get me wrong. I DONT think I will be disappointed in the 211 as a machine and what it will do. The passport just has a few more features. I think that I read about several different machines to many times and started letting the specs run together. I know that this is an EXCELLENT machine, lets just see what I can do with it in a few days.

                        Sporty, I will surly put a post up as soon as I try the spool gun. Again I just dont know how soon that will be.

                        The last few weeks we have had pretty mild temps here and now this week its royal HOT. At my day job I go hard till the work is Done, regardless of the weather. So sometimes when I get home I kick back and and try to soak up a little cool low humidity air.

                        Miller 211 A.S. and Spoolmate 100
                        Stickmate LX 235 AC / 160 DC.
                        Clarke 180 EN Just in case
                        Spectrum 375 X-Treme.
                        O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
                        Milwaukee 14" Chop Saw.
                        4 x 6 Horizontal Band Saw.
                        Rockworth 80 Gallon 2 Stage 16 SCFM @ 175 PSI , 15 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
                        Jackson Passive shade #5 for the plasma.
                        I almost forgot the Hobart XVP AD Hood.


                        Projects and Misc Albums
                        http://picasaweb.google.com/keesfriend Feel Free to Have a Look ( Just keep in mind I am an amateur )

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                        • #13
                          Speaking of hot, at 5:00 this afternoon it was 105 in my shop. Glad I got my welding chores done before noon.

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