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  • Straightshot
    started a topic Vertical welds with my mig ?

    Vertical welds with my mig ?

    Hey all, another noob here.
    I just purchased a M/M 252, i'm starting mig class at the local CC in early april. I was dying to get this thing fired up and run some beads.
    A friend gave me a real cheap (free) welding table, it;s 30"x72" with a 3/8" top, it seems to be pretty straight/ flat but it's been sittins out in hes feild for a couple years.
    It's proving to be quite the project, a kick in the but but pretty labor intense.
    I'm adding quite a few add ons that i've seen on this forum, where i'm having issues is my vertical welds ?
    do I need to drop my volts down a hair, I'm getting my droopie puddles and it seems to be burning through on a couple of spots, when it does this I make a wider pool and it seems to cool enough to fill it. Any advise ?
    I'm welding 2'x2' 1/8 tube, my settings are 17.5 volts and 247 feed speed, 030 wire. My index on the machine says start at 18v/250 feed but 18 was definatly too hot.
    Thanks and I do love this 252, it seems to be very adjustable.

  • Craig in Denver
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    Hiya SundownIII:
    That's just my class coupons. But when I'm pretending to weld alum, I am in heaven. Last night I learned that 3/32" filler is too small for 1/8" plate fillets, I can't keep up with the feed rate. Now that I think about it, feeding the filler through my fingers, isn't my strong point. I had been messing around with .060 - .100 and 3/32" was working ok. But I was edge welding (pretending to fix props), so the 3/32" was better suited. I won't have to worry about tripping, on my way down.

    Originally posted by Ultrachop View Post
    Craig,
    No doubt the guys that can stack them dimes consistantly give you and me a lot to look forward to.
    What I think they're giving me is a headache.
    Originally posted by Ultrachop View Post
    (I plan to cut up some more 1/8" coupons today/tomorrow and start all over (my other coupons look like someone tried to hard face on them).
    Hot flash: Use 1/8" filler for fillets. None of my 3/32" tungsten were happy on 1/8" alum (Zirconiated, Ceriated, Lanthanated), so I went back to the 1/8" green I was using. Most likely my points were too sharp for the amps.

    Originally posted by Ultrachop View Post
    (I am off to a gun show) to look for a XD40 for Craig :-)
    Tim
    Yea, yea, yea XDM9212HCFP 40. Capacity 16 + 1

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  • davedarragh
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    "Heck's Nuts"

    Originally posted by Ultrachop View Post
    Sundowner/straightshot!

    Hey, just a headsup! I called Bernard today to see what was up with my attempt to convert my Miller M-25 gun to a Centerfire Bernard frontend.

    This is what I found, (I needed what is called a "Hexnut insulator" Part#4780 to complete the conversion) For some reason this part is not listed on the conversion chart on their website.

    The good news is after checking 4 LSW's within 50 miles of my place and nto finding the part, the WONDERFUL customer service representative at Bernard informed me "not to worry" they would take care of me! In fact she said she was putting the complete setup including an additonal 10 .030 contacts and 1ea flush and recesses Copper/Brass nozzles in a box and ship to me FOC!! Folks that is a company that will prosper in resessed economic times!!!

    Tim:
    UltraChop: Appreciate the info, I called Bernard this morning, and they are sending me one. No extra freebies, though, but I still can't complain!

    Dave

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  • SundownIII
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    Dang Craig,

    What you building there? Looks like a stairway to Heaven.

    Just don't trip on those "dimes" on the way up.

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  • Ultrachop
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    Craig,

    I was having so much fun teasing u that I forgot it was a Mig thread

    No doubt the guys that can stack them dimes consistantly give you and me a lot to look forward to. (I plan to cut up some more 1/8" coupons today/tomorrow and start all over (my other coupons look like someone tried to hard face on them

    OP- I won't continue the hijack (I am off to a gun show) to look for a XD40 for Craig

    Tim

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  • Craig in Denver
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    Originally posted by Ultrachop View Post
    Craig,

    this has got to stop!! I am really a nice guy and you never whine. No you aren't, yes I do. I read that Twin turbo thread and now I want to get a "real Crotch rocket" I read what NLR said about pulsing and the settings he posted, but haven't quite figured out how that would be emulated on a Dynasty 200dx?? I don't have a clue?? I got the peak amps at 200, the freq set at 200 but the other two settings didn't quite compute?? I still don't have a clue??
    My son just bought a Yamaha RI and he wants me to get on?? Oh, chit; that can't be good. (better stick to my 110hp Show polished 117ci SS Vtwin so I can live to be as young as and maybe be able to weld up my own AL urn?
    I saw that bike on one of your posts and it's real Pretty. I can't imagine YOU welding on it.

    Here's tonite's welds. 1/8" plate with 1/8" filler. The outside corners were done with no filler. The fillets were done with 1/8" filler. Not bragging fer sure, just showing.

    Well now, there's a hijack in progress; this thread started out as a MIG thread. Ultrachop and I turned it into a TIG thread.
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  • Ultrachop
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    Craig,

    this has got to stop!! I am really a nice guy and you never whine. I read that Twin turbo thread and now I want to get a "real Crotch rocket" I read what NLR said about pulsing and the settings he posted, but haven't quite figured out how that would be emulated on a Dynasty 200dx?? I got the peak amps at 200, the freq set at 200 but the other two settings didn't quite compute??

    My son just bought a Yamaha RI and he wants me to get on?? (better stick to my 110hp Show polished 117ci SS Vtwin so I can live to be as young as and maybe be able to weld up my own AL urn?

    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=27817

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  • Craig in Denver
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    Originally posted by Ultrachop View Post
    Craig,

    Thought I would give you an update, today a friend came over and brought his Semi-auto (russian built) 12 gauge with 15 round clip (now that is a heater) I showed him some of your whinning posts and he said I could keep the Shotgun to guard the shop investments!! You are welcome anytime to come on up and hole up in the shop! I just got my 330cf Argon tank filled and a pak of blue tungsten so you can practice on the Dynasty and see if you really want one? I won't be welding Saturday as I am going to another gun show to see if I can find some more 40 ammo for my XD. (put 50 rounds down the tube yesterday and not one FTF. (sweet)

    Are you packed yet??

    Tim
    Sheet, I'm still proof-reading my post and you come up with this. 15 round clip in a 12 gauge, now that's gotta be fun. Whadda mean "whinning posts" Hey, for what's in yer garage, I'll take a chance on that 12 ga. I'm packed, see ya Saturday. I just have to miss the Tannner Gun Show this weekend. 50 rounds and no FTF, well, now I want one more!!

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  • Ultrachop
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    Craig,

    Thought I would give you an update, today a friend came over and brought his Semi-auto (russian built) 12 gauge with 15 round clip (now that is a heater) I showed him some of your whinning posts and he said I could keep the Shotgun to guard the shop investments!! You are welcome anytime to come on up and hole up in the shop! I just got my 330cf Argon tank filled and a pak of blue tungsten so you can practice on the Dynasty and see if you really want one? I won't be welding Saturday as I am going to another gun show to see if I can find some more 40 ammo for my XD. (put 50 rounds down the tube yesterday and not one FTF. (sweet)

    Are you packed yet??

    Tim

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  • Craig in Denver
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    Originally posted by Ultrachop View Post
    I am hoping to start building some roll cages and exocages, bumpers and other off road projects to "justify" my craving for more shop tools and to make Craig nervous!
    Tim
    Yupin' yiminy, you and I just aren't goin' to get along are we? First you buy a Dynasty 200 DX to tease me. Then you buy a 252 to poke a stick in my eye. Next on the list is a Springfield XD 40 to p!ss me off. And now you're gonna build roll cages and other cool off road pieces to ruin my day. So, any room in yer garage fer my cot??

    Originally posted by Ultrachop View Post
    I will post my results as I am always learning (heck at my age) I might as well go out practicing!!
    Age has nothing to do with it. Job satisfaction is what's happening.
    Originally posted by Ultrachop View Post
    Besides I am trying to catch up to Craig for number of hours welding and not getting paid to do it. (LOL)
    He!!, I'd pay to do this. Oh, wait a minit, I am paying to do this. :-)
    Last edited by Craig in Denver; 03-19-2009, 11:03 PM.

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  • Ultrachop
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    John,

    You bet! Bernard's C/S number is; 708-946-2281. I am convinced we will really like the MM252 with some hours under the hood. I am looking forward to some better weather so I can run some dual shield with it (outside).

    If you haven't done so already there is some good resources under Mig on the company side of this site, as well the Handbook is really well written.

    It might be me but I keep having to turn the voltage slightly lower then the starting point on the chart for my work (technique, or lack there of) probably has a lot to do with it.

    Tim

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  • Straightshot
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    Could I get Bernard's Phone #

    Tim, I appreciate that info, could I get Bernard's # from ya ?
    Thanks Jon

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  • davedarragh
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    Bernard "Sneak Peek"

    Sometime by the end of this month, Bernard will introduce a new Water-Cooled Center-Fire System for their MIG guns.

    Dave

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  • Ultrachop
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    Sundowner/straightshot!

    Hey, just a headsup! I called Bernard today to see what was up with my attempt to convert my Miller M-25 gun to a Centerfire Bernard frontend.

    This is what I found, (I needed what is called a "Hexnut insulator" Part#4780 to complete the conversion) For some reason this part is not listed on the conversion chart on their website.

    The good news is after checking 4 LSW's within 50 miles of my place and nto finding the part, the WONDERFUL customer service representative at Bernard informed me "not to worry" they would take care of me! In fact she said she was putting the complete setup including an additonal 10 .030 contacts and 1ea flush and recesses Copper/Brass nozzles in a box and ship to me FOC!! Folks that is a company that will prosper in resessed economic times!!!

    Tim:

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  • SundownIII
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    Tim,

    Not sure what the problem is. I didn't have any problem converting my M-25 to Bernard.

    You may have to trim the liner slightly to allow the diffuser to seat fully.

    When properly installed, the nozzle will seat securely on the insulator.

    I'd still recommend touching base with Bernard. The folks there are very helpful and knowledgeable.

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