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  • Can some one pass me a shoe-horn! Long post with tons of pics..56k beware!

    Well, one of my favorite things to do is race motorcycles..All sizes, and since the rash of bad get-offs at 130+ in my early 20's i've found a nice little sport that's not only affordable and fun to build your won creations, but there's actually races for them too!

    The first pics are of one i started on for a customer just recently. IT came to me as a fully assemble 2005 Honda CR-85cc dirtbike. (with a blown bottom end) A few days ago I stripped the old motor, plastics, radiators and everything else off in getting ready to fi the brand new 250cc motor the owner had shipped to my house after dropping the bike off. Once this motor is in, I'm doing some port work, Crower will do the cam, Trail bikes HC piston (13.5:1 or so) and then I'm going to De-stroke it so it will rev like no 4 stroke 238cc bike you've seen I will post vids when i'm done

    here's the first ones... the vids i'll post later are where we do shows for the J.D.R.F. And the A.C.S (diabetes and cancer societies...we do shows of stunting and jumping for the kids that are at the camps all over the US in the summer...one of the most rewarding things i've ever done for free..or paid to do actually)

    Anyway... I aint here bout no jibber jabber LOL and here's where it gets long with pictures hope yo're nto on dial up HAhahaha

    the first 6 or so are the CR85 w/ 250 motor



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    here's where iw as just trying to figure out how to set it


    it's going to be a close fit for the pipe

    These 2 were taken around midnight tonight when i finally called it quits. This is probably aboue exactly how the motor will sit, now i just have to biuld soe mounts, a cradle, re0enforce teh upper frame i hacked up and put it back together..yea thats easy enough LOL

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      Here's some of my other builds for stunting and racing.. Both the red/black bike and the green rat rod were piles of rusted up junk in a garage...we got a pair fo them for 200 bucks, then a lot of time and effort later, i built the red and black one for my buddy (did all the fab and paint..was his mental idea though) And the green rat rod (a.k.a. project good will..a.k.a. the grenade) is my baby! it was a pile of junk, i call it roject goodwill because the frame was given to me for the work i did on the red bike, and the motor (125cc when it was stock) was donated for some work for the owner of the first bike in this thread ( i build and tune his real moto-x race motors ) THe gren bike boasts over 15 HP, in a 115lb bike lots of custom parts from cams to pistons..one offs aren't cheap either..that's where i spent all my money since i got the rest for doing what i love and just had to paint and build it

      Last edited by turboglenn; 12-15-2008, 01:09 AM.

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      • #4
        The green one before i got a pipie built. and trying on a new seat.. if you look close ALL the welds are smoothed over with bondo on the frame...talk about time 8)





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          And here's some of my street girl, a glance of the one that made me a cripple for life and evena pic of the one i stunt at the shows we do ( you can see accessories on it for doing different trick combos) There's even 2 of my wifes bike after geting some chrome and a pic her beuatiful self as well (and had to throw in the 2 other things i love,,,guns and my car on slicks )





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          • #6
            Fnally, the wife's bike and her in her belly dancing costume yum enjoy




            This is the one that crippled me... 135 MPH was all i could slow to by the time i made impact...I'm very lucky to be here, but i'll never stop riding, only ride smarter.. I'm leaving it a link because i think it's huge
            http://members.cox.net/turboglenn/WreckedF3.jpg

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              UPDATE: AS far as the "project" that started this thread goes, I got the lower rear mount (down by the foot pegs) built and tacked in place. The i positioned the otor for equal clearnace all the way around, made sure my sprocket was lined up dead center with the rear one and built the upper mount on the back of the head. I fully welded it into place as a guide for tweaking the positioning using it as a fulcrum.

              Now i have to come up with a way to make a removable under-carriage that will connect to the front mounts along with something that extends down from the front fame tube and ties all 3 pieces together to get the strength back in the frame, basically using the motor and the backbone to the frames structural integrity.

              I'm too tired and sore for pics tonight, but once i get some more done tomorrow i'll have some up right away.

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                So, is it that i posted too many pictures, put it in the wrong section (maybe should be in motorcports) or is no one interested in this project at all?

                I ask because of large amount of views and no feedback on the project.

                I've been at it still and am almost to the point of finishing the motor install to the point where i can mount the ignition components, strip it back down nd refinish the paint job to make it look as OEM as i can..anyone interested in me posting the updated pics?

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                  LOL......how old are you anyways? I'm 31 and been riding my whole life.....I raced mx and did freestyle up until the last 3-4 months(seperated my pelvis/spine slightly having a catch wityh a football with my little cousin. Anyways, I never got seriously hurt riding and took alot of chances. I mean, I seperated a shoulder, broke my heel and tore my arch, but never anything REAL bad. I always got hurt doing stupid stuff.....smashed my entire face/eye socket/jaw when i flipped a golf cart with a blown motor at the Indy Racewaypark.....broke my back lifting delivering snapple.....bruised my tailbone and got a good concussion trying a 360 in Colorado last year.....but all the bad stuff never happened while I was on a bike.....I gues it's because I am always focused when riding?! Dave PS- Is that a Daytona Honda motor in the green bike?
                  Originally posted by turboglenn View Post
                  So, is it that i posted too many pictures, put it in the wrong section (maybe should be in motorcports) or is no one interested in this project at all?

                  I ask because of large amount of views and no feedback on the project.

                  I've been at it still and am almost to the point of finishing the motor install to the point where i can mount the ignition components, strip it back down nd refinish the paint job to make it look as OEM as i can..anyone interested in me posting the updated pics?

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                    I"m 31, I'll be 32 in march of '09. I've been riding since i was about 8 years old and although i've crawled, been airlifted and sometimes taken an ambulance to the hospital after a big get-off i just can't give up the bikes.

                    In Oct 1992 i tore my left hip out of socket trying to clear the new tripple they had built at Budds Creek motorplex in budds creek maryland. I raced motocross for years, from starting in the 50cc class moving up through 80cc c.b. and a classes and eventually getting into 125B before women, cars and partying took my dedication to running the points series away, but i still continue to ride dirt adn street to this day

                    Then in August 2001, i had the accident that the last pic that was linked in the post that shows the wife. that was the wreck that really changed my life, and even before i learned to walk again i had another F2 in the garage that i would hobble/wheel-chair out to and work on every day until i was able to ride again.

                    Then in '05 when i came off a bike partially in mid-air for a video we were making and destroyed my left knee when i landed, once again i was back out stunting in a heel to hip cast/brace making videos for a "video contest" on anther board i use to admin (not on there much anymore due to the owner of it being a big ass drama queen and always threatening to sell or shut down the forum)

                    Not that any of that is relevent, but it's some back groundd on me..
                    So... Anyone want some update pics on the cr85/xr250 hybrid build?
                    Last edited by turboglenn; 12-19-2008, 01:16 PM.

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                      Post em up.....what motor is in that green bike?
                      Originally posted by turboglenn View Post
                      I"m 31, I'll be 32 in march of '09. I've been riding since i was about 8 years old and although i've crawled, been airlifted and sometimes taken an ambulance to the hospital after a big get-off i just can't give up the bikes.

                      In Oct 1992 i tore my left hip out of socket trying to clear the new tripple they had built at Budds Creek motorplex in budds creek maryland. I raced motocross for years, from starting in the 50cc class moving up through 80cc c.b. and a classes and eventually getting into 125B before women, cars and partying took my dedication to running the points series away, but i still continue to ride dirt adn street to this day

                      Then in August 2001, i had the accident that the last pic that was linked in the post that shows the wife. that was the wreck that really changed my life, and even before i learned to walk again i had another F2 in the garage that i would hobble/wheel-chair out to and work on every day until i was able to ride again.

                      Then in '05 when i came off a bike partially in mid-air for a video we were making and destroyed my left knee when i landed, once again i was back out stunting in a heel to hip cast/brace making videos for a "video contest" on anther board i use to admin (not on there much anymore due to the owner of it being a big ass drama queen and always threatening to sell or shut down the forum)

                      Not that any of that is relevent, but it's some back groundd on me..
                      So... Anyone want some update pics on the cr85/xr250 hybrid build?

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                        I"ll put some more up tonight after dinner. I just got the sub-carriage roughed in on the hybrid and want to get teh motor back in for some fresh pics to put up along with the others.

                        The green bike started as a 72 honda z50 mini trail. The motor started as a Lifan 125 chinker, i had a custom piston and cylinder done to make it 146cc, 13.5:1 compression ratio. Brian Crower turned a run of custom cams for us on this head, which is a rare factory big valve head that has had even larger valves stuffed in it, some mild port and bowl work and makes about the flattest torque / hp curve i've ever seen it's HP is about 15, the torque is almost 16lb/ft

                        It runs through a 25mm carb right now ( going to a 28 and custom intake manifold soon though)

                        If i can find the dyno chart i'll post it.

                        I'm going out for sushi right now then coming home to work on getting the final mounting tab on the bigger bikes frame and connecting the down tube to the under-carriage. This is one part i'm really wishing i didn't have to drive across town to use a plasma cutter because i'm working with really thin sheet of the gussets because they will be custom formed around the 3 tubes that intersect..gonna be a b!tch! but I will get the ics up tonight!

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                        • #13
                          cool lets see more.

                          looks like great fun, really nice toys (wife included )
                          have you looked into getting a small plasma cutter ?? i have a spectrum 125-C and love it. used it on 3/32 steel with not much trouble, just a lil slow.

                          as for the pic's: I'm on dial up and have to say it loaded great, thanks for the warning and the low KB's.

                          that honda from the crash looks purity good to me. you should have seen the suzuki 750 full dresser i planted in the back of a Lincoln contenetal (road boat) back in the early 80's.

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                            fun4now, thanks on teh compliments. Are you doing okay from your wreck? I'm all screwed up with degenerating disks between LI & L2 and S2 and S3, they want to do a double fusion but aren't giving me good odds, so i'll stay on pain killers until it gets really bad. I mean, i could get surgery for free now (through the air force) but when they say 50/50 on being in more pain or less i'd rather stay where i'm at since i can manage it decently.

                            I'm going down to work on the customer project some more right now (ended up going out last night) so i'll have some pics up around midnight or so of teh finished frame (unpainted) with teh motor sitting pretty inside it

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                              crash was no biggy, i walked away

                              actually i came out of the wreck fine. much better than my bike. i was doing 65 with the cruse control set and never even got my hands on the handle bars before the impact. that probably saved me, as i went over the top bouncing off the car hood with my face and actually landed on my feet in the road in front. or so i was told by onlookers . all i know is my hands were scratch and dirt free and the first thing i remember was standing in the road ?? i got 6 stitches in my chin and was released later that night. would have gotten out sooner but the EMT on sean missed my vain and pumped a full bag into my arm tissue, took them a wile to try to figure out where the break that was causing all the swelling was at. finally some one figured out it was just the IV and they put some warm towels around it to reduce the swelling and sent me home.
                              i was 16 and invincible back then, funny how we all seem to be at that age. only to pay for our play in later years.
                              the bike on the other hand, not so good. the force of the impact busted loose all the gears inside the motor and smashed them into a blob in the front, frame was toast all the full dress bags and faring were shattered and strewn about. she was a no fixer.

                              i do know your pain though. later on at 32 i crushed my phsyatic nerve at work by compressing the L-5 S-1 portion of my spine. probably would have been ok if i would have stopped working and seen a Dr. but i kept working till i could not even stand the ride in the truck to get to work. now i am heavily medicated, i suspect about the same as you. and all i get in return is taking the edge off the pain, never a pain free day again. the neurosurgeon told me i have about a 10% chance to see improvement threw surgery and a 70% chance it will get worse, the other 20% is that no change will hapen even with surgery. they recommend i wait till it reaches the point i cant walk and then they will try to get me back to the stage I'm in now. great news Ay.. they have me on morphine and codeine, they offered methadone and some other options even less fun, like an internal tank filled with morphine hooked into my spine and wired to an external button so i can shoot it as needed, even offered to put an electrode into my spine hooked up to a push button so i can shock my spine as needed ?????? so for now i just eat a little over 800 pain pills a month ( not counting Tylenol or ibuprofen type, just morphine and codeine) thats 3,000 MG. of codeine and 8,100 MG. of morphine a month. with that i am able to get out to the shop and play for an Hr or 2 a day if all goes well and i am careful, and i get to spend a lot of time on the couch around the kid's with the middle of my day spent laying down to release the presser on my spine. all in all i would have to say i am doing great for my condition and am just happy to be able to spend the time with my family, and a little play time in the shop to help keep the stir crazes from setting in on me.
                              the V.A.Hospital picks up most of the bill for my med's and all of my Dr. visits so i hope they don't cut there budget too much. they mail me my med.s so i only have to drive in to see the Dr. about 2 times a year unless some thing else comes up.
                              my only advice to ya is the same you already know, if you can manage as is it could well be a good idea to not mess with it till its needed. unless they have a real fix, don't mess with it. and do the best you can to keep your spirits up, playing in the shop and having family around really helps for me.
                              on a side note, i know many that have had the spine fused with great results. not an option for me as its nerve damage i now have to deal with, but if its some thing that can help and they give you the option it could very well really help.

                              wow!!! sorry for the book!!!

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