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    hi all, im a on again off again welding student at the local community college, i picked up a old miller thunderbolt, i was curious if i could update it some, it has a hand crank power control but the cheesy indicator doesnt work, is there anyway i can wire in a ampmeter if so how would i do this? any help is appreciated

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    Welcome to the Forum.

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    • #3
      nfinch86- CANADIAN WELDOR :

      Originally posted by lonegunman88240 View Post
      hi all, im a on again off again welding student at the local community college, i picked up a old miller thunderbolt, i was curious if i could update it some, it has a hand crank power control but the cheesy indicator doesnt work, is there anyway i can wire in a ampmeter if so how would i do this? any help is appreciated
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      • #4
        Have you pulled the cover to see what exactly is wrong with the indicator? Might be cheesy for you, but it is dead simple and should be both easier to fix and cheaper using the original pointer.
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        • #5
          thanks for the warm welcome, im from hobbs new mexico,

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          • #6
            yea actually i have, the guy i got it from was welding on a horse trailer and forgot about it, and somehow ran over it, everything seems fine but the case is messed up, will be making one soon, it seems to me that the front plate moves forward and backwards depending on which way it is cranked, whick forces a a small indicater into position i assume? most of those small parts are gone and the local welding shops were no help

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lonegunman88240 View Post
              yea actually i have, the guy i got it from was welding on a horse trailer and forgot about it, and somehow ran over it, everything seems fine but the case is messed up, will be making one soon, it seems to me that the front plate moves forward and backwards depending on which way it is cranked, whick forces a a small indicater into position i assume? most of those small parts are gone and the local welding shops were no help
              Post up a picture and lets see what you have left.
              Miller 251...sold the spoolgun to DiverBill.
              Miller DialArc 250
              Lincoln PrecisionTig 275
              Hypertherm 900 plasma cutter
              Bridgeport "J" head mill...tooled up
              Jet 14 X 40 lathe...ditto
              South Bend 9" lathe...yeah, got the change gears too
              Logan 7" shaper
              Ellis 3000 band saw
              Hossfeld bender w/shopbuilt hyd.
              Victor Journeyman torch and gauges
              3 Gerstner boxes of mostly Starrett tools
              Lots of dust bunnies
              Too small of a shop at 40 X 59.

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              • #8
                ok just as soon as i can, he didnt run completly over it just enough to ruin the case, he tried to reshape it and hammer it back to shape lol and it looks it,
                i got a 100 amp fcaw, i thought making a new case would be a good project for the little wire feed, would any of you know what the duty cycle of these old welders were?

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                • #9
                  Click on the link below, find your welder and enter the serial # and the owner's manual that will come up should give you specifics on your model.

                  http://www.millerwelds.com/service/ownersmanuals.php
                  Miller 251...sold the spoolgun to DiverBill.
                  Miller DialArc 250
                  Lincoln PrecisionTig 275
                  Hypertherm 900 plasma cutter
                  Bridgeport "J" head mill...tooled up
                  Jet 14 X 40 lathe...ditto
                  South Bend 9" lathe...yeah, got the change gears too
                  Logan 7" shaper
                  Ellis 3000 band saw
                  Hossfeld bender w/shopbuilt hyd.
                  Victor Journeyman torch and gauges
                  3 Gerstner boxes of mostly Starrett tools
                  Lots of dust bunnies
                  Too small of a shop at 40 X 59.

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                  • #10
                    You should be able to get parts from Miller pretty easily.
                    You could send cruizer on this board a private message, he could tell you right away if there was an easy way to rig something else up. He's a certified Miller repair tech so send him as much info as you can, if nothing else he can give you the part #'s to get the correct pieces to repair it back to original.
                    Good luck.
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                    • #11
                      you think i be able to get a replacement cover?

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                      • #12
                        Welcome

                        Welcome to the forum!

                        I would second the thoughts from the last posters, Wyo-Roy, etc.

                        Also your wire feed shoudl be up to the job for a case.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lonegunman88240 View Post
                          you think i be able to get a replacement cover?
                          I would think so, but you'd have to call to find out.
                          at home:
                          2012 325 Trailblazer EFI with Excel power
                          2007 302 Trailblazer with the Robin SOLD
                          2008 Suitcase 12RC
                          Spoolmatic 30A
                          WC-24
                          2009 Dynasty 200DX
                          2000 XMT 304
                          2008 Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52
                          Sold:MM130XP
                          Sold:MM 251
                          Sold:CST 280

                          at work:
                          Invision 350MP
                          Dynasty 350
                          Millermatic 350P
                          Retired:Shopmaster 300 with a HF-251

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lonegunman88240 View Post
                            you think i be able to get a replacement cover?
                            I doubt whether the company has covers for the older style welder like yours sounds to be...at least at a cheap enough price to make it a viable fix. You would probably be money ahead contacting Cruizer or some other welding technician and obtaining a used cover off one that has gone too far down the path for a rebuild.
                            Miller 251...sold the spoolgun to DiverBill.
                            Miller DialArc 250
                            Lincoln PrecisionTig 275
                            Hypertherm 900 plasma cutter
                            Bridgeport "J" head mill...tooled up
                            Jet 14 X 40 lathe...ditto
                            South Bend 9" lathe...yeah, got the change gears too
                            Logan 7" shaper
                            Ellis 3000 band saw
                            Hossfeld bender w/shopbuilt hyd.
                            Victor Journeyman torch and gauges
                            3 Gerstner boxes of mostly Starrett tools
                            Lots of dust bunnies
                            Too small of a shop at 40 X 59.

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