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  • #61
    Originally posted by JTMcC View Post
    I don't know what "free standing archetectural canopies" are exactly.

    JTMcC.
    It's a fancy way to add a couple $$ signs to the word curtain rod, so yeah as far as the ROC is concerned I'm good because all I have to do is FAB them the client willl have them powder coated and they will sit free standing thanks for the link I'll add it to my list to check out
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    • #62
      Originally posted by SinGear View Post
      It's a fancy way to add a couple $$ signs to the word curtain rod, so yeah as far as the ROC is concerned I'm good because all I have to do is FAB them the client willl have them powder coated and they will sit free standing thanks for the link I'll add it to my list to check out
      Fine.. what my link no good
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
        Fine.. what my link no good
        AHHHH too many links! I just have a word doc I have been pasting them into until I can get time (ya know after my day job) to look them all over
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        • #64
          The link I put up is the SBS checklist of every legal requirement to start a business in Arizona.

          I think my link is unbeatable Broccoli 1.


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          • #65
            Originally posted by JTMcC View Post
            The link I put up is the SBS checklist of every legal requirement to start a business in Arizona.

            I think my link is unbeatable Broccoli 1.


            JTMcC
            Only beatable by my link that IS the checklist- just trying save the fella some Clicking time

            It is the Link posted before the Avondale post
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            • #66
              You 2 just gonna play swords or what?

              Thank you both for the links
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              • #67
                http://www.troutandpartners.com/team/jack_trout.asp

                Most marketing campaigns fail, because
                people do not understand competition.
                Its all about specialization. Being outstanding
                at one thing is far better than
                being just good at many things.
                This is one of the things that eats my lunch. It was simple to think that being good at something would win out in the end, not so. One of the things that make Picaso such a great artist, he died rich.
                Last edited by Sberry; 09-23-2008, 03:41 PM.

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                • #68
                  New guy here but i thought i would jump in on this since it was something i had trouble with as well. I basically took a guess on my pricing and it ended up meeting right with some thing i got right from a book (after converting inches to hours) with some slight changes. The book is "The welders Handbook" By Richard Finch. He recomaneds a dollar an inch + 1 dollar a tack weld and say that it still seems to low.


                  After doing some SS 6'' pipe and some large commercial handrails i found his numbers to be right within what i charge, so i have adopted it to give 2 pricing modes to people depending on if i'm doing all the fab & welding or if i'm just welding

                  I run a "mobile welding" truck around as well and my pricing is as follows.

                  MInimum of 25 dollars wether it's just something small you briong to me or for me to drive to your location and just look at the job. Then if time goes into an hour the first 25 applies to the hourly rate of 40 dollars per hour. On a strictly welding job where all parts are trimmed and fitted i do the 1 dollar a tack and 1 dollar an inch of weld. Then if it's SS or AL i go 1.25 per inch, and then add another .25 cents if the SS requires back gassing.

                  I know this thread is rather old, and i didn't read all replies, but just thought i would put this out there for the OP and for anyone searching just to see what things are going at in my area. MOst other shops charge between 40 and 60 an hour respectively, but since i have no shop overhead because i'm based from a place that i already work and have a decent metal shop at home i try and stay on the lower end of the scale to hopefully gain customers and revenue. I've owned a painting business for over 5 years and just this past year took welding to the "retail/commercial" level and so far things are good, business is picking up fast and i haven't been dissapointed with the money i've made on any project so far. Save for one recent job where i wasn't told of a 4 day deadline on 115ft of mild steel handrail set in concrete. When i wrote the bid they acted like i had all the time in the world, so i gave them a good price to get my foot in the door. But, i still came out at 30 bucks an hour afer all was said and done.

                  Sberry has a good point, I specialize in automotive/motorcycle fab & repair work and keep my rigs out at the track every weekend, I probably don't make as much as some one welding pipe for a living or just having "the weld shop" on the corner that does "whatever" and that's made the jobs that i do get very pleasing to work on and keeps the pay scale good. There's a lot of mobile welding shops in town (3 others) but by going to the track and talking with the other racers and showing them my work i broke into orking on a ton of drag bikes locally, everything from starter carts to wheely bars and Frames. I also specialize in CRMO4130 and ALuminum work because i like them so much more than all other metals and I practice every joint & weld position and burn through every bit of filler rod i can on these metals when i'm not working on a customer project so that i will have experience in every situation posible when it comes to these metals and so far it's all paying off very well.
                  Last edited by turboglenn; 09-24-2008, 08:36 AM.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by turboglenn View Post
                    New guy here but i thought i would jump in on this since it was something i had trouble with as well. I basically took a guess on my pricing and it ended up meeting right with some thing i got right from a book (after converting inches to hours) with some slight changes. The book is "The welders Handbook" By Richard Finch. He recomaneds a dollar an inch + 1 dollar a tack weld and say that it still seems to low.
                    Hmm very interesting, and deffinately worth a look I'll compare it up to the last couple jobs I've done and see how it works out for me. Regardless thank you for the input I appreciate it.
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                    • #70
                      Nice Response!!

                      Originally posted by FATFAB View Post
                      As you can see I fixed the issue of where in the world I am, thanks for pointing it out.

                      Underbid all you want, just play on the same field as the people you are competing with. If the people you are taking work from are not licensed bonded and insured then more power to you.

                      Clearly that is not the case, or you would have humbled your self.


                      I did start out day one with a bond liability insurance, work comp insurance, followed two weeks later with the two licenses I need. Total spent $1900.00.

                      Bye.
                      Wow!!! You are angry. Find somewhere elso to go, maybe Alaska?
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                      • #71
                        What's up with that?

                        Originally posted by FATFAB View Post
                        As you can see I fixed the issue of where in the world I am, thanks for pointing it out.

                        Underbid all you want, just play on the same field as the people you are competing with. If the people you are taking work from are not licensed bonded and insured then more power to you.

                        Clearly that is not the case, or you would have humbled your self.


                        I did start out day one with a bond liability insurance, work comp insurance, followed two weeks later with the two licenses I need. Total spent $1900.00.

                        Bye.
                        That guy was pissed!!
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                        • #72
                          Nice Response!!

                          Originally posted by FATFAB View Post
                          As you can see I fixed the issue of where in the world I am, thanks for pointing it out.

                          Underbid all you want, just play on the same field as the people you are competing with. If the people you are taking work from are not licensed bonded and insured then more power to you.

                          Clearly that is not the case, or you would have humbled your self.


                          I did start out day one with a bond liability insurance, work comp insurance, followed two weeks later with the two licenses I need. Total spent $1900.00.

                          Bye.
                          Wow!! You are angry. Maybe, you should move to a non-populated place like Alaska!
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                          • #73
                            I didn't see all of the "anger" in the post, but maybe it was there. I did notice the he posted some info about how he started in business, as per the OP questions.
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                            • #74
                              I don't see the anger, but I don't try to read into posts more than is there.

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                              • #75
                                Might be she is just stirring up the poo?

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