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    A guy wants to sell me a Systematics Mig Welder very reasonable. He is very trustworthy and honest, I have no reason to doubt one word he ever said. He told me it is a very nice machine, will out perform anything I want to do with it. All I know is it is big and runs on 220. He is going to email me pics and all the information on it. Does anyone know anything about the Systematics ? I know Miller is the way to go but if I can get a steal on something, I would be a fool to pass it up IF it is a good quality machine.
    Ken

    What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

    Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
    Hobart Handler 187
    Dewalt Chop Saw
    4" Air Grinder
    Die Grinder
    Rigid Drill Press
    Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


    2009 FXDC

  • #2
    http://www.brweldingsupplies.com/par...roduct_id=1401

    Well at least B&R has consumables
    Ed Conley
    http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
    MM252
    MM211
    Passport Plus w/Spool Gun
    TA185
    Miller 125c Plasma 120v
    O/A set
    SO 2020 Bender
    You can call me Bacchus

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    • #3
      I guess they took over the Air Products line. I was buying Air Products AP 250 feeders and the last one was a Systematics, different color and name but identicle to the Air Products feeders This isn't recent probably 25 years ago or more..
      Last edited by lars66; 08-16-2008, 04:59 PM. Reason: Lousey spelling. Add to post

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      • #4
        Well, I got the tech number for Systematics. After finding out what model it was (FM150) I called tech and got my answer. Machine is 30 years old and there are no available parts for it. Guess it will collect dust in the guys garage unless he wants to sell it for junk price.

        Got a good price on a Hobart Handler 187 today for $753, free shipping. Should be getting it within the week. Seeing how Hobart is owned by Miller, I feel better now setting my Miller & Hobart side by side.
        Ken

        What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

        Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
        Hobart Handler 187
        Dewalt Chop Saw
        4" Air Grinder
        Die Grinder
        Rigid Drill Press
        Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


        2009 FXDC

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KBar View Post
          Well, I got the tech number for Systematics. After finding out what model it was (FM150) I called tech and got my answer. Machine is 30 years old and there are no available parts for it. Guess it will collect dust in the guys garage unless he wants to sell it for junk price.

          Got a good price on a Hobart Handler 187 today for $753, free shipping. Should be getting it within the week. Seeing how Hobart is owned by Miller, I feel better now setting my Miller & Hobart side by side.
          Kbar-

          This is one of the first hits when you type in HH187 on Google

          http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...187-MIG/Detail
          Ed Conley
          http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
          MM252
          MM211
          Passport Plus w/Spool Gun
          TA185
          Miller 125c Plasma 120v
          O/A set
          SO 2020 Bender
          You can call me Bacchus

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
            Kbar-

            This is one of the first hits when you type in HH187 on Google

            http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...187-MIG/Detail
            For a savings of only $60, it wouldn't be worth it to me. Something goes wrong in shipping or otherwise, I have to send it back to IL. Where I got mine, I can drive 10 mile and drop it off, plus Im dealing local with repairs, warranty, etc. Besides, I dont have an account there, dont use plastic either
            Ken

            What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

            Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
            Hobart Handler 187
            Dewalt Chop Saw
            4" Air Grinder
            Die Grinder
            Rigid Drill Press
            Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


            2009 FXDC

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            • #7
              Originally posted by KBar View Post
              For a savings of only $60, it wouldn't be worth it to me. Something goes wrong in shipping or otherwise, I have to send it back to IL. Where I got mine, I can drive 10 mile and drop it off, plus Im dealing local with repairs, warranty, etc. Besides, I dont have an account there, dont use plastic either
              Good deal- since you said Free Shipping- I thought you had ordered on line.
              Ed Conley
              http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
              MM252
              MM211
              Passport Plus w/Spool Gun
              TA185
              Miller 125c Plasma 120v
              O/A set
              SO 2020 Bender
              You can call me Bacchus

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
                Good deal- since you said Free Shipping- I thought you had ordered on line.
                No, the company was out of stock so rather than get it shipped to their store, they are shipping it straight to me. In the long run, it saves them a trip. Now Im anxious to use it.
                Ken

                What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

                Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
                Hobart Handler 187
                Dewalt Chop Saw
                4" Air Grinder
                Die Grinder
                Rigid Drill Press
                Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


                2009 FXDC

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                • #9
                  Good choice. New HH187 vs. 30 year old welder? No question.

                  Good luck. You'll like the HH187.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Old Sporty View Post
                    Good choice. New HH187 vs. 30 year old welder? No question.

                    Good luck. You'll like the HH187.
                    Yeah but now I have to make a cart for it, boss asked me if I wanted one, I told him a welder builds them, they dont buy them.
                    Ken

                    What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

                    Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
                    Hobart Handler 187
                    Dewalt Chop Saw
                    4" Air Grinder
                    Die Grinder
                    Rigid Drill Press
                    Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


                    2009 FXDC

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                    • #11
                      Hobart

                      I've owned pre-Miller and Miller owned Hobarts. Both are great machines and consumables are easily found. Good choice. My first Hobart 140 Handler went through at least 100 lbs. of wire with no problems.
                      Millermatic 210
                      Syncrowave 200
                      Spectrum 625 X-treme
                      Hobart Champion 16 W/
                      Miller 8VS Suitcase
                      Miller 3035 Spool Gun
                      Tons of Tools
                      Microwave
                      Laptop and Printer
                      Speakers in the Back for all to hear Sirius Radio!

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                      • #12
                        Machine only took three days to come after the P.O. was faxed out, I was amazed. Unfortunately it came Wednesday and I was off Thursday and Friday. I'll be taking it out of the box to check it out Monday, probably wont use it much until the weather starts getting colder, thats when my inspections outside start slowing up.
                        Ken

                        What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that

                        Miller Thunderbolt XL 300/200 AC/DC
                        Hobart Handler 187
                        Dewalt Chop Saw
                        4" Air Grinder
                        Die Grinder
                        Rigid Drill Press
                        Kellogg 10hp Air Compressor


                        2009 FXDC

                        Comment

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