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  • #16
    Check it.

    So, I finally zipped this up and put it straight into action.
    No time for paint, and the 2x4 I had wedged in the frame for the mock-up is still wedged in the frame.

    1 and 2) Test piece, first run. That's a 1/8" x 8" wide piece of mild steel.

    Honestly, I stuck the metal in the rollers and this thing pretty muched rolled itself. I could give the wheel a light flick and it would draw the metal right on through to the other side. Effortless. I love it when a plan comes together.

    3) Straight into the project at hand. This is the 1/8" x 5" skirt for the stands I am currenlty making. I have to roll these in two halves and fit them up. Rolls like cookie dough.

    4 and 5) The finished machine. When I have a chance, I'll give it a coat of paint.

    In all honestly, this thing works even better- way better- than I had expected. No gears, no chain, no idlers, no motor, no problems. I didn't really check out anyone elses plans before I made this because I had a clear idea of what I wanted and how I would make it from the get-go. Now that I finished mine, I looked around at some of the other plans, and with no disrespect intended to the rollers and builders, I just don't understand the need for all those sprockets, chains, motors, keyways, idler, etc. Looks like a lot of extra expense, PITA, and well, I just don't see it.

    If I had to do it again, I would make it wider. Duh.
    Also, the rollers on mine still see about a 1/4" gap between them when jacked up all the way. This basically means that you are limited by how tight of a radius you can roll. If you look at a sheet metal pinch roller, the dies can basically close right in on each other, so you can roll about a tight of a radius as the die. Just something to consider if and when you build your own.

    Now that this is behind me, I can move on with the project and start thinking about making my press brake.

    Thanks for looking.

    I'll be happy to answer any questions about this thing, but don't expect me to send you any plans. I simply don't have any and I'm sure not going to draw any up. As I mentioned before, they can be found scrawled on my shop table in soapstone or on the back of a knapkin somewhere.

    Woohoo!
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    • #17
      original question

      Originally posted by big c View Post
      i am wanting to build a roller to roll 1/4 x2 and 1/2 round bar can any one help me with this?
      I probably won't be rolling any round bar with mine, and I still hold to my original recommendation for your application: buy the $90 roller on e-bay.
      It will do your 1/4 x 2 and 1/2 bar no problem.

      I was about $175 out of pocket for my machine, but I had most of the material laying around the chop. Time into the project is another story.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by chris***@sbcglo View Post
        Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

        I used the same ring roller that you have. I used the dies for 1" square tubing for 1" round, which turned into a small disaster because, as one would expect , the round expanded and kept getting pinched in the dies and made it extremely difficult to roll. It all worked out in the end; I just got a good workout myself.
        What Dies are you talking about?

        Mine didn't come with any Tube dies- I used a Die from my 2020 bender- worked ok.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
          What Dies are you talking about?

          Mine didn't come with any Tube dies- I used a Die from my 2020 bender- worked ok.
          Ummm... oh yeah... those would be the dies that we turned for 1" square tubing. Your bender would not have come with these dies.

          I need to make a set for round, but will probably just make them as the need arises.

          A "V" grooved set of dies should work for round, but won't give you as good results as a nice dedicated set of dies for the proper tube size. It just depends on what is acceptable for the job you are doing. For a handle for my bender I can live with an oblong shape. For a customer's hand railing... that's another story.

          Ed, you'll have to check out this new roller when you're in SD... but it aint leaving my chop.
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          Last edited by chrisgay@sbcglo; 08-28-2008, 02:44 PM. Reason: forgot the pic
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          Spectrum 701
          LMSW-52 spot welder

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          • #20
            Chris,

            AWESOME!

            Don't you just love it when a plan comes together.

            As with all your work, when you set your mind to it, you "GET ER DONE".
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            • #21
              Originally posted by SundownIII View Post
              Chris,

              AWESOME!

              Don't you just love it when a plan comes together.

              As with all your work, when you set your mind to it, you "GET ER DONE".
              Thanks Jay.

              Yes, I do love it when a plan comes together.

              Did I mention how stoked I am about this roller? ....

              I don't think anyone else really cares. That's OK. I'll post up anyways.
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              • #22
                Maxed out

                A quick post here just to stay in the game.

                Well, I think I took this little roller to the limit.
                That's 1/4" x 12" mild steel in a 24" diameter.
                I didn't need it to be a complete circle, so I left the flats on the end.

                Not too shabby for hillbilly home-made... I guess.
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                Spectrum 701
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                • #23
                  nfinch86- Canadian Weldor :

                  Originally posted by chris***@sbcglo View Post
                  A quick post here just to stay in the game.

                  Well, I think I took this little roller to the limit.
                  That's 1/4" x 12" mild steel in a 24" diameter.
                  I didn't need it to be a complete circle, so I left the flats on the end.

                  Not too shabby for hillbilly home-made... I guess.
                  Chris, Hi; That LITTLE ROLLER is better than just nice !! Have you got any Plans on how you built it.
                  Man to Roll 1/4x12 sheet like that is Sweet !! ..... Norm : PS. Sorry you can tell I came in at the end of this one.
                  I went back and saw all of your work and pictures in making this Great Project !!
                  Fantstic Job !!! .... Norm :
                  Last edited by nfinch86; 12-07-2008, 05:13 AM.
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                  • #24
                    thanks Norm

                    Originally posted by nfinch86 View Post
                    Chris, Hi; That LITTLE ROLLER is better than just nice !! Have you got any Plans on how you built it.
                    Man to Roll 1/4x12 sheet like that is Sweet !! ..... Norm : PS. Sorry you can tell I came in at the end of this one.
                    I went back and saw all of your work and pictures in making this Great Project !!
                    Fantstic Job !!! .... Norm :
                    Hi Norm. Sorry no plans, but you can take what you can from the pics.
                    I think the bearings are a key part to reduce the drag and effort. A long lever is important as well. Next is to make a 52" wide version... something I should have done the first time 'round.
                    Keep it simple.
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                    • #25
                      dont forget to show us some pic's of the next one too.
                      thanks for the help
                      ......or..........
                      hope i helped
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                      • #26
                        nfinch86- Canadian Weldor :

                        Originally posted by chris***@sbcglo View Post
                        Hi Norm. Sorry no plans, but you can take what you can from the pics.
                        I think the bearings are a key part to reduce the drag and effort. A long lever is important as well. Next is to make a 52" wide version... something I should have done the first time 'round.
                        Keep it simple.
                        Chris, Hi; OH MAN, I can't wait to see that one !! Again what a Fantastic Job you did on the first one !!! I don't think I would have the gear to pull that one Off !! ...... Norm :
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                        - LN-25 Wire Feeder

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                        - DeWalt Chop Saw .
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