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  • #16
    i read in a diesel magazine, now keep in mind im a welder not a mechanic or engineer, that the diesel on the market is clogging the particulate filters quite often and so the burns have to be longer means more fuel consumption, id dont think this the only part to the equation but a definite possibility.

    ive heard the new 6.7 dodges arent that great on fuel eithr. it might be my imagination, but it seems that just as the diesel engines(any make or model) get all the bugs worked out of they "redesign" it to make it better, and the result is a less reliable and/or lower mpg engine
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    • #17
      Brew all the diesel you want...you just better pay the road taxes on it. They have sniffers working in the Dallas area sniffing out the homebrewers. If you can't prove you paid the fed/state taxes on it with a rcpt or equivalent, you get a nice big fat ticket to pay. Get caught multiple times, read that as twice, you can be looking at jail time for tax evasion. I think the Dallas project is a test project. Once they work the bugs out, betcha they start deploying them everywhere. Big Brother is watching.
      Don


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      • #18
        Originally posted by DDA52 View Post
        Brew all the diesel you want...you just better pay the road taxes on it. They have sniffers working in the Dallas area sniffing out the homebrewers. If you can't prove you paid the fed/state taxes on it with a rcpt or equivalent, you get a nice big fat ticket to pay. Get caught multiple times, read that as twice, you can be looking at jail time for tax evasion. I think the Dallas project is a test project. Once they work the bugs out, betcha they start deploying them everywhere. Big Brother is watching.

        Ya. Unfortunately your right on the money with the big brother thing. Also I wouldn't think about doing it if I had to do it for a long time to get a payback on the investment of materials. Like someone said above, you will have to pay for your used oil soon enough. It is getting recognized as a commodity more every day. Although Im also starting up a home foundry. Sniff away & dont forget to take video of me putting it in my truck becouse I will also be using it to melt steel.
        Last edited by Blue Collar Moto; 04-30-2008, 06:23 PM.
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        • #19
          I'm all for gov't but they need to butt out of this cause they aren't doing anything to keep gas prices down. Gas traded at a all tome high of $120 a barrel today. Expert predict $200-$250 before summers end. I think I'm going Diesel and Bio to save money.

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          • #20
            oh yeah?!?

            Originally posted by Blue Collar Moto View Post
            Pay un to Caesar what is Caesar's....... Ya, you still will have to pay the man.
            F*** tha man. Just like he's F****** us... Arent you tired of it all yet?
            Born to live taxed to death. All those billions of your hard earned dollars going to politicians and things you cant even begin to think of...

            I dont mean to be a shi t disturber but its true...
            Im thinking of building a still so that i can make ethenol or wood alcohol. I need to read up more though. An edumacation is the first place to start.
            Will it weld? I loooove electricity!

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            • #21
              Take a breath.....a slow deep breath.
              Don


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              • #22
                I'm all for the Bio-Diesel concept....It would be the only way I would consider owning a diesel powered vehicle OR welder at these prices.

                One drawback though:

                Just think.....You pull onto a pipeline, and every machine is burning Bio-Diesel...... Buggars wouldn't get anything done - They'd all be watching the clock, waiting for lunch.
                Later,
                Jason

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                • #23
                  I am still leary of the bio diesel. Local, and only refiner of bd here, recently had to buy several engines and paid the repair bills for several thousand trucks. Bad batch.
                  Don


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                  • #24
                    Years ago we ran all of our shop trucks on propane because it was cheap. And yes you still have to pay mileage tax, so keep some good books...Bob
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Blue Collar Moto View Post

                      I have some Chinese restaurants lined up to give me the used oil already. 0.75c VS 4.05 per gallon!
                      So, you think you have a good deal, getting used cooking oil from the Chinese restaurants... do you know what all of that MSG can do to an engine?

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                      • #26
                        yeah yeah yeah

                        Originally posted by DDA52 View Post
                        Take a breath.....a slow deep breath.
                        okay okay okay . Im good im good.. too much cccccofffee way too much ccoffe but im okay now really realy i am really.

                        Bio deisel is worse for the enviro than dino deisel... corn oil will solidify with time. check out the bottle or jug your wife has in her kitchen.. look for the gooey yelloish deposits about the spout. can you imagine what the goop could be doing to your innards... hmmmmm what the he ll is it going to do to an engine..?
                        Will it weld? I loooove electricity!

                        Miller 251/30A spool
                        Syncro200
                        Spectrum 625
                        O/A
                        Precix 5x10 CNC Router12"Z
                        Standard modern lathe
                        Cheap Chinese mill that does the trick... sort of...
                        horizontal 7x12 bandsaw
                        Roland XC540 PRO III
                        54" laminator
                        hammer and screwdriver (most used)
                        little dog
                        pooper scooper (2nd most used...)

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                        • #27
                          this is the ultimate answer to the enrgy crisis of the 21st century....

                          take and atom of ununhexium
                          Symbol: Uuh
                          Atomic number: 116
                          Atomic weight: [ 292 ]

                          And bombard it with protons. this creates anti matter. the enrgy created from this reaction could be harnessed to heat water to turn a generator..
                          a reactor the size of a walnut could feed the energy requirements of a city the size of seattle....

                          YEAH RIGHT.. but really. this technology is not far away. mark my words. Im not quite right in my spew but im close.

                          so who here by show of hands thinks signwave has gone of the deep end? hehehehehe... think what you want. many other ideas were shot down along the way.. like the world was round instead of flat and the sun revolved around the earth...
                          Will it weld? I loooove electricity!

                          Miller 251/30A spool
                          Syncro200
                          Spectrum 625
                          O/A
                          Precix 5x10 CNC Router12"Z
                          Standard modern lathe
                          Cheap Chinese mill that does the trick... sort of...
                          horizontal 7x12 bandsaw
                          Roland XC540 PRO III
                          54" laminator
                          hammer and screwdriver (most used)
                          little dog
                          pooper scooper (2nd most used...)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Goodhand View Post
                            So, you think you have a good deal, getting used cooking oil from the Chinese restaurants... do you know what all of that MSG can do to an engine?
                            Yeah, and you're going to need a filter for the fish heads and bones that you will find in the oil.

                            I can recall a Chinese restaurant that was down on the corner from our house when I was a kid in Chicago, They used to pour the used oil into the sewers. Heh heh.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Goodhand View Post
                              So, you think you have a good deal, getting used cooking oil from the Chinese restaurants... do you know what all of that MSG can do to an engine?
                              Hehehehe! Im hoping the thing will grow me a spare tire on the back door.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Synchroman View Post
                                Yeah, and you're going to need a filter for the fish heads and bones that you will find in the oil.

                                I can recall a Chinese restaurant that was down on the corner from our house when I was a kid in Chicago, They used to pour the used oil into the sewers. Heh heh.

                                Smells great! Less filling!

                                Oh man. I need more coffie.
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