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  • #16
    can I ask do you all own your tanks or you rent them? I have always wonderd if i did just some tig welding at home would it be better to own a tank or rent one?? Thanks

    Chris

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    • #17
      Owning usually means you're saving money in under 10 years vs even a good rental rate.

      If you need to upgrade, a good LWS will give you credit towards your new tank for what you paid for your old one. But, steel going up means you can probably sell it to someone and make money instead.
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      • #18
        i just got my 20cf bottle of argon refilled at my lws and they charged me
        $19.60!!!!!!
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        • #19
          Stop your griping!!!!!!!!!!!!

          All you guys mad about what you pay for the price of Argon, this is what we pay here (just called the LWS) JUST FOR GAS ALONE!

          80CF...$117.38
          300CF...$356.54

          Same answer whenever asked: "Well, we had to ship it over here...."
          This is what we pay to live in paradise. If we don't like it, yeah, we could leave. We just deal with it. It's been around 85 degrees the past 30 days, winds 10-15mph.
          Oh well.....
          I'm not late...
          I'm just on Hawaiian Time

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          • #20
            I paid $250 for my 336cf tank - full. The whole tank with gas in it!
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            • #21
              You definately want to shop around. One local supplier sells 60cf aluminmum argon/oxy bottles with a fill for around $250, where as another regulary has sales on 80cf alum. argon/ oxy bottles with a fill for about $165.
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              • #22
                Shorerider16,

                Are the guys in your area doing a lot of spray arc on steel? That's what an Argon/O2 mix is used for.

                I think you really meant Argon(75%)/CO2(25) commonly referred to as C25.

                I know you're young, but you do have a habit of posting less than accurate information.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SundownIII View Post
                  Shorerider16,

                  Are the guys in your area doing a lot of spray arc on steel? That's what an Argon/O2 mix is used for.

                  I think you really meant Argon(75%)/CO2(25) commonly referred to as C25.

                  I know you're young, but you do have a habit of posting less than accurate information.

                  Sorry, words didn't work quite right for me on that one. What I meant was an Argon or Oxygen bottle. The price is for a new bottle with the first fill included. I haven't inquired about refilling because I don't have a bottle to fill at home, yet. Just using the two prices as an example as to why shopping around can save you money.
                  Dynasty 200DX, first generation
                  Makita 5" grinder
                  Makita 14" abrasive saw
                  IR SS5L compressor
                  Whole bunch of hand/air tools.
                  and a wish list a mile long

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                  • #24
                    i just filled my 336CF bottle with straight Argon and it cost $114.50. that's just the gas refill, and doesn't include the yearly lease fee i pay for the bottle.

                    yes they get me with haz fees for argon too. i don't consider argon a hazardous material so i've no idea how they justify that. probably just a money grab.
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                    • #25
                      The haz mat fee is a trumped up line item used to extort money from unwilling customers.

                      The LWS is charged a haz mat fee for their receiving the main shipment of the gas. They make a killing on that charge to you, because it only amounts to a few pennies on what you can stuff into a 336.

                      My LWS refuses to charge it. He also refuses to charge me for hydro tests. He considers both to be part of HIS cost of doing business. It also saves the aggravation of exchanging a tank and spending 40 mins looking for one thats remotely close to the date stamp on the one you're bringing in. When you look at it that way - he's saving money not charging the $11.
                      Syncrowave 250DX
                      Invison 354MP
                      XR Control and 30A

                      Airco MED20 feeder
                      Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 81
                      Smith O/A rig
                      And more machinery than you can shake a 7018 rod at

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                      • #26
                        Going back to Monty's original question about "when should I get my tank refilled".

                        I'd say wait until a fart back flows into the tank, but realistically I'd wait til my hi pressure gauge read <100 psi. Taking a tank back with 700PSI means you're giving them back over 100 Cu Ft of Argon.
                        Syncrowave 250 DX Tigrunner
                        Dynasty 200 DX
                        Miller XMT 304 w/714D Feeder & Optima Control
                        Miller MM 251 w/Q300 & 30A SG
                        Hobart HH187
                        Dialarc 250 AC/DC
                        Hypertherm PM 600 & 1250
                        Wilton 7"x12" bandsaw
                        PC Dry Cut Saw, Dewalt Chop Saw
                        Milwaukee 8" Metal Cut Saw, Milwaukee Portaband.
                        Thermco and Smith (2) Gas Mixers
                        More grinders than hands

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                        • #27
                          That answers my question
                          Nick
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                          • #28
                            COOL!!! Only took 26 posts to answer!!!
                            I'm not late...
                            I'm just on Hawaiian Time

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                            • #29
                              WORD
                              Nick
                              Miller 252 Mig
                              Miller Cricket XL
                              Millermatic 150 Mig
                              Miller Syncrowave 200 Tig
                              2-O/A outfits
                              Jet Lathe and Mill
                              Jet 7x12 horz/vert band saw
                              DeWalt Multi Cutter metal saw
                              Century 50 Amp Plasma Cutter
                              20 ton electric/hydraulic vertical press
                              Propane Forge
                              60" X 60" router/plasma table

                              www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTu7wicVCmQ
                              Vist my site: www.nixstuff.com
                              and check out some of my ironwork and other stuff

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                              • #30
                                On scuba tanks, we always leave a little air inside, as to not let moisture in.
                                'specially if you live in an environment that is hot during the day and cold at night. SundownIII has a good point though, why give THEM free money????
                                I'm not late...
                                I'm just on Hawaiian Time

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