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This gets asked alot on all 3 boards. You can buy one from a guy on ebay that builds them in is garage, or get a cheapie HF, my buddy got a free one from HF with a bender purchase. Or you can get the top of the line model from http://www.shopoutfitters.com/ . I have theirs and would not even attempt to build one because i could not do better than what they sell. Anyway here is some good reading...Bob http://www.hobartwelders.com/mboard/...ad.php?t=17297