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    Well I picked up the new TB 302g today. I ran it about 4hrs and I am very happy with it, I ran about 5 lbs of 7018 1/8" and I was very impressed with how smooooth the arc is. I liked my Bobcat 250 very much but I think I'll be happy with the new TB302g. There's a bunch that I need to learn about this machine. I need to read the manual and see what's up with those dig settings. All in all so far so good.
    I would like to say thanks again to everyone for all the great advise. I will have more questions...
    Bulldog
    Attached Files
    5 Passport Pluses
    2 MM 212's
    MM 210
    MM 251 MIA
    MM 350 P w/Python
    Syncrowave 250
    w/ tig runner
    Trailblazer 302
    12RC w/meters
    Spectrum 1000
    Spectrum 2050
    2 Black BWEs
    Joker BWE
    Star & stripe BWE Digital
    2 star & stripe xlix's

    REAL TRUCKS RATTLE
    CUMMINS BABY

  • #2
    Oh and by the way I got a GREAT deal at my LOCAL dealer.$3500.00 for the welder 2 quick disconnects , 20lbs of 7018 1/8" and 13' of #2 whip cable.
    Bulldog
    Oh yea a full tank of fuel. I don't think you get that from your internet dealers.
    5 Passport Pluses
    2 MM 212's
    MM 210
    MM 251 MIA
    MM 350 P w/Python
    Syncrowave 250
    w/ tig runner
    Trailblazer 302
    12RC w/meters
    Spectrum 1000
    Spectrum 2050
    2 Black BWEs
    Joker BWE
    Star & stripe BWE Digital
    2 star & stripe xlix's

    REAL TRUCKS RATTLE
    CUMMINS BABY

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    • #3
      Good deal. Congrats on the new addition.
      Don


      '06 Trailblazer 302
      '06 12RC feeder
      Super S-32P feeder

      HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
      Esab Multimaster 260
      Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bulldog
        Oh and by the way I got a GREAT deal at my LOCAL dealer.$3500.00 for the welder 2 quick disconnects , 20lbs of 7018 1/8" and 13' of #2 whip cable.
        Bulldog
        Oh yea a full tank of fuel. I don't think you get that from your internet dealers.
        Great deal! I am glad you are happy with the stick arc. I think with time you will come to appreciated the 120HZ, 3 phase, 4 pole DC arc. There is very little AC interference in the arc.

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        • #5
          On behalf of the LOCAL dealers thank you for buying LOCAL we need the support,You will love the machine I sold 2 last week with extreme feeders customer loves them hes burning hobart fabshield 81n1 5/64 and loves it,he had a hard time running it with bobcat 250

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          • #6
            Bulldog - Welcome to the Trailblazer family!

            My local dealer (AirGas) beat all the internet deals AND discounted everything else to rock bottom. Says that I'll never get those prices again until I spend another $7500

            Try the 12RC feeder if your dealer has a demo - you'll be impressed.
            Barry Milton
            ____________________

            HTP Invertig 201
            HTP MIG2400

            Miller Trailblazer 302, Spoolmatic 30A, Suitcase 12RC
            Clarke Hotshot

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            • #7
              Originally posted by HAWK
              Great deal! I am glad you are happy with the stick arc. I think with time you will come to appreciated the 120HZ, 3 phase, 4 pole DC arc. There is very little AC interference in the arc.
              Can anyone explain the diff in stick arc between this machine and the pipe-pro?

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              • #8
                Congrats on the new machine.You are going to really like the new Trailblazer!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ShieldArc
                  Can anyone explain the diff in stick arc between this machine and the pipe-pro?

                  The Pipe Pro 304 is an engine driven version of the XMT 304. Therefore, the arc is an inverter arc and welds like the XMT 304. It has the same DIG control for arc force that is infinitley adjustable from 0-100% on the SMAW mode. The DC arc is inherently clean. There is no AC output on this machine. I think the Pipe Pro 304 has a better DC arc than the Trailblazer 302 if you are welding pipe, specifically downhill travel. This machine is a good attempt by Miller to clone the arc of a true DC generator like the old Lincoln Pipeliner.

                  The TB302 has a fantastic DC arc. There are 4 preset DIG settings. It is a rectifed AC arc with minimal AC noise. I was discussing the TB302 arc with a Miller engineer yesterday and was informed the DC output is for very clean. There is a slight AC ripple in through a small portion of the 3 phase arc cycle (about 5 degrees out of 360). This actually smooths out under a load.

                  I use several machines in the field with the TB 302G being the smallest unit. I think it is a great dollar value with a footprint that will fit just about anywhere. In the shop I use XMT machines. Between the 2 DC arcs I prefer the XMT arc, but have no complaint with the Trailblazer arc. Most of my pipe my welding is vertical uphill.

                  I do prefer the arc of a true DC generator, but they have their drawbacks: large footprint, heavy weight, numerous brushes to replace. Even with all this you have to love them if you stick weld for a living.

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                  • #10
                    How is the trailblaizer 302 on Aluminum with AC ?

                    Ok for automotive type stuff?

                    Also what is the quietest Trailblaiser in recent history, the 302G ?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Teeps
                      Also what is the quietest Trailblaiser in recent history, the 302G ?
                      TB legend go here
                      Coalsmoke's Website

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bulldog
                        I need to read the manual and see what's up with those dig settings.
                        Bulldog, send me an e-mail at mosaic_guy@hotmail.com if you want me to send you some info I have gathered and compiled on the dig settings, along with a few of my final thoughts on it. IIRC, it's too many pages to post here, course, I guess it could be condensed.
                        Coalsmoke's Website

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by precisionworks
                          Bulldog - Welcome to the Trailblazer family!
                          <<SNIP>>
                          Try the 12RC feeder if your dealer has a demo - you'll be impressed.
                          Barry,

                          have you done much short arc with your 12RC? What size wire? Your impressions?

                          Thanks!
                          Bill
                          "The more I learn about welding the more I find there is to learn..."

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                          • #14
                            BillC,

                            I have a 12RC that I run from several power sources including the TB302G. It has a nice clean short arc and does a great job with spray arc too! I typically run .035" for short arc and spray arc with a 92% Argon/8% CO2 shielding gas for both processes. I like the 12RC for FCAW as well. I usually run .045" dual shield and 5/64 flux cored wires. It is an all around great feeder. Mine has been through mud, rain, and snow with out any adverse affects. I highly recommend it for field and shop. It likes the 10lb spools as well as the 33 and 44 pounders.

                            I have the TB302G stabilizer tap in the middle position. The factory setting provides a dryer puddle on GMAW which does not suit me so I changed it. It's a one time deal that takes about 30 minutes.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks Hawk,

                              I have no doubt that the 302G/12RC combination is great for spray or flux core, and that seems to be what most people are using them for. I like that capability, but also want to do sheet metal short arc without compromise. You can buy a great shop MIG machine like the MM210 or MM251 for what a 12RC with cable and gun costs... And the 210 would plug into my 302G happily...

                              Thanks again,
                              Bill
                              "The more I learn about welding the more I find there is to learn..."

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