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    I have an old inherited Miller bluestar 2e welder that was handed down to me. I am needing a part off the pto side of the motor. This is an old unit. The round circle plate that is bolted to the oil pan that is pressed on the crankshaft. I am probably S.O.L. but this is worth a try. Other than the serial number off the unit ( ja369806 ) I have no other numbers. It has a Tecumseh engine ( 10 hp I believe ). Can someone please direct me to a part number or someone that can help me locate this plate ?

    ANy response will be appreciated>

    melvincribb@Hotmail.com

  • #2
    maybe a picture might be handy, if the item is pressed on the crankshaft like the flywheel, it would be turning and not bolted to anything, sooooo, really not understanding

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    • #3
      Miller BlueStar 2e

      Sorry about that. It is the disk that is pressed on to the crankshaft that is circular and it is NOT bolted to the pan. It seems to be a clutch of some sort. It has no springs just four bolts that attach the motor to the rest of the unit. For some reason I was trying to detach it from the engine and I used a puller and with the force I ended up breaking it. The only numbers that I can get off of this broken part is : 605-212.

      Any part number and name of the part will greatly be appreciated. Even where I can possibly find one.

      Any help will greatly be appreciated.

      Thanks A Bunch . . .

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      • #4
        Well, it goes, case protection screen, pullstart rewinder, flywheel, flywheel, and stator (for charging). IF you have a electric starter the rewind coil may or may not be there. Pretty darn simple engine. Part#'s are pretty much useless on a 30 year old machine though.

        Still going to need a picture. Can tell you imediately what it is.

        Unsure what PTO side of engine is anyways, Are you talking , engine removed, and the spine sticking out, or the flywheel side

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        • #5
          power take off=pto

          Originally posted by cruizer View Post
          Well, it goes, case protection screen, pullstart rewinder, flywheel, flywheel, and stator (for charging). IF you have a electric starter the rewind coil may or may not be there. Pretty darn simple engine. Part#'s are pretty much useless on a 30 year old machine though.

          Still going to need a picture. Can tell you imediately what it is.

          Unsure what PTO side of engine is anyways, Are you talking , engine removed, and the spine sticking out, or the flywheel side
          he would be talking about the side of the engine with the crank drive shaft sticking out. That would be the pto side. Im thinking it had a drive plate for the generator of the welder.
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          • #6
            Miller BlueStar 2E

            This is opposite of the flywheel side. It is a pull rope flywheel along with an electric starter. This disk / plate that I need is just under the hub that attaches to the oilpan. This disk looking / circular plate is pressed on the crankshaft side of the oilpan. I may be S.O.L. but I am at least trying to get some hope out of it. Hopefully a used part if possible. PTO side is the side opposite of the flywheel side. Yes I pulled the engine off hopefully to remove the oilpan so that I can install a set of rings.

            I will get a picture posted as soon as I can.

            During the meantime, any help will do.

            Thanks Cruizer. . .


            Originally posted by cruizer View Post
            Well, it goes, case protection screen, pullstart rewinder, flywheel, flywheel, and stator (for charging). IF you have a electric starter the rewind coil may or may not be there. Pretty darn simple engine. Part#'s are pretty much useless on a 30 year old machine though.

            Still going to need a picture. Can tell you imediately what it is.

            Unsure what PTO side of engine is anyways, Are you talking , engine removed, and the spine sticking out, or the flywheel side

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            • #7
              Sure your not talking about the "Air stator" part # 009 975, the other # doesn't come up. If you pull up the owners manual, it'll show you a parts break down for your unit. The 605212, does come up as a fan casting in the Miller 250G, still an obsete part, even at Vintage parts. I'll see if the newer parts look like the older ones,
              Last edited by cruizer; 08-20-2014, 05:23 PM.

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              • #8
                Miller BlueStar 2E

                I wish I had the owner's manuel for a parts break down but I don't. This plate is pressed on the crankshaft on the oil pan side. It bolts to another plate that is attached to the welding part of the unit. It is not the bell housing that is attached to the oil pan, but it is what is inside of this housing.
                I will try to post a picture of the unit.

                Any place where I can view a parts break down on this unit ?

                Thanks for Any Input. . .


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Butch1957 View Post
                  I wish I had the owner's manuel for a parts break down but I don't.


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                  • #10
                    Nope , the Trailblazer 250G uses the same plate. however, there are none available after an extensive search. So you will likely have to get that one fixed

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                    • #11
                      miller Bluestar 2e

                      Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                      Nope , the Trailblazer 250G uses the same plate. however, there are none available after an extensive search. So you will likely have to get that one fixed
                      I was directed to get a manuel but all I have is a serial number ja369806

                      the website is asking me in addition to the serial number they want a model number I do not have one

                      please assist.

                      thanks

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                      • #12
                        Just bypass all that stuff and click on bluestar 2e
                        Last edited by cruizer; 08-21-2014, 09:40 PM.

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                        • #13
                          The bluestar 2E used a 16hp tecumpseh motor. Model OH 160
                          The manual is downloadable on this web page and has a parts diagram/description in it.
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                          • #14
                            PN 021934 Adapter, fan-rotor

                            Here's the manual http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o423e_mil.pdf for your unit and the part you need is the crank-to-fan/rotor adapter(PN 021934, item #70, page 4 of the parts breakdown.

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