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  • #16
    Originally posted by WickedWillow View Post
    locating relevant material for him to familiarize himself is a task for me (with absolutely zero knowledge in the area). We are continuing our search and hope to find some assistance within the local school's shop teacher. Again, thank you all for such wonderful advice. :-)
    The welding universe is so much more than just burning stick with a buzzbox or engine drive...

    Whichever path you take...

    it is well worth your while to download the FREE PDF versions of the manuals that are available here

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    These contain the same material that is in their Student Pack...
    and is the same training material used by many community college and trade school programs..

    But the printed version is $100....
    who knows.. after reviewing the PDF's you may want to purchase the printed version with the calculators and posters....

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    • #17
      I have 2 older text books you can have
      Welding Principles and Applications 3rd edition Jeffry Jeffus
      Welding Skills 2nd edition R.T. Miller

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      • #18
        WickedWillow,

        I wish you the best of luck with your son's endeavors.

        Like many of the members here, I agree with the need for math skills.
        I might add (for a later time) blueprint reading skills.

        As an aging baby boomer, I find I am caught in a mix of old-new technologies.

        Computer skills are a must in today's world but "old world hands-on" know-how is still very important.

        I have a friend from high school days (over 45 years ago) who is a master plumber
        and who still fixes my mistakes without saying much.

        He doesn't have cable TV (by choice) and doesn't go on the Internet (no computer),
        yet he still makes more than me (retired engineer) and we have fun together.

        I do some tig welding when he needs it so it works out well.

        My point is that the latest technology may not help in a "real world" situation.
        Good old "hands-on" experience will never die.

        I don't think if I have a clogged toilet that I can find a phone app to unclog it.

        The Yellow Pages are not extinct.

        Best of luck.

        PS - I was born in Denver and grew up in Aurora before the folks moved to Phila.
        Best memory was when we had a thunderstorm in the summer when I was 4 and we took our rafts and floats out into the streets to play as the water was 2 feet deep in our street and everyone moved their cars onto their lawns.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by WickedWrenches View Post
          I believe the best way would be to just get a used welder and let him go to town on some scrap metal. He can read every book written about welding but until he actually puts hands on it and does it, its just fantasy land. Knowing in your head how to do it from reading books isn't the same as hands on experience. I thought I was the best welder in town after reading several "how to books" and online forums, then I got my first welder and found out I was sorely wrong.
          No truer words were ever spoken My friend

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          • #20
            Desparately needing help

            Aws has online course for welder inspectors but it broke down in subject like math safety metallurgy blueprint reading etc, aws.org

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            • #21
              I taught at a local community college for 12 years before retirement. I can tell you the kids or at least 80% coming out of HS today do not have basic math skills we learned in grade school. A lot of them could not solve math problems... even using a calculator.

              I just spent well over $2200 for a multi process welder, I doubt if she needs to spend that much money.

              I would look at Home Depot wire welders. I purchased a Lincoln Weld Pak HD that runs on 120 volts and does not require gas. Its a DC out welder so it does a really good job with the Lincoln flux core wire they sell. The welder sells for about $230. Get a good welding hood, adjustable shade, automatic darkening, some scrap metal and let him learn. Any of the smaller 120 volt MIG or flux core welders used would work fine, except for anything from Harbor Freight.

              Let him weld in an area that is free of anything that can burn.

              Yes, sure its not stick welding nor is it TIG but most of those require 240 volt and some type of gas tank. Who knows he may weld one time and its not for him? I started welding at age 12 on the farm with a old junky Dayton stick welder and it was a pit to use. A lot older now, I like to weld and build things. Am I a pro welder, no still learning.
              Last edited by wmgeorge; 08-25-2014, 12:20 PM.
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              • #22
                Good luck with your plans. Some more online videos for him to watch:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq9870Tfc0U
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP8hh0yQibM
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mcTl0VrvWQ

                Steve also has videos on Flux Core welding, Oxy-Acetylene welding and Oxy-Acetylene cutting.

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