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  • #16
    Originally posted by scratchedup View Post
    just read the link...I think I;m more depressed.....did not see a lot on the fix....
    Not to get discouraged... just take your time and go through it step by step...
    do a reset.. and check start parameters.. etc...

    it might just be something as simple as a bad ground/work clamp that needs to be replaced with a good bronze Lenco or Tweco...
    or one of the other possibles as Cruizer has suggested...

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    Last edited by H80N; 05-19-2014, 07:18 PM.
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    • #17
      The procedure to view arc hours and arc starts is in the manual posted in the link earlier in this thread.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cgotto6 View Post
        The procedure to view arc hours and arc starts is in the manual posted in the link earlier in this thread.
        I guess that would be page 48...

        Yesterday I printed out the entire manual.

        Also, I hooked up everything on the cleaned up a new red tungsten, re-set to factory setting. At first it fired every time but then became kind of intermittent.

        I plan on taking it in the shop. There is a tech there who has the same machine.

        Intermittent is very frustrating.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by scratchedup View Post
          I guess that would be page 48...

          Yesterday I printed out the entire manual.

          Also, I hooked up everything on the cleaned up a new red tungsten, re-set to factory setting. At first it fired every time but then became kind of intermittent.

          I plan on taking it in the shop. There is a tech there who has the same machine.

          Intermittent is very frustrating.
          NO RED TUNGSTEN,,,

          try some 2% Lanthanated,,,, bet the machine behaves better,,,
          (3/32 should cover about all situations with a Dyn 200)
          Last edited by H80N; 05-22-2014, 08:24 AM.
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          • #20
            My guess is that an honest tech will find NOTHING wrong with your Dynasty...

            Tungsten selection and prep is very different between Transformer and Inverter welders.... and could contribute to your problems...

            this guidebook should help..

            http://www.diamondground.com/TungstenGuidebook2013.pdf

            there are many thousands of pre "Blue Lightning" Dynasties being used every day..
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            • #21
              Thanks H80N.

              I warned I was a newbieee. I guess machines are different. so the 200dx is an inverter welder?

              I have had two friends who are welders come over and they seem kinda baffled by the machine.

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              • #22
                wow
                Tungsten Guide Book if great!

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                • #23
                  Yup,,, the Dynasty is an inverter...

                  totally different animal than the older Transformer based chopper or magnetic amplifier machines...

                  But a WHOLE HECK of a LOT BETTER...

                  and yes all the settings and nested menus can be kinda daunting... but hang on and take your time,,,

                  there are a whole bunch of us that have been in your position...

                  lots of threads on finicky arc starts and the need to tap the tung against the workpiece before trying to start your arc...
                  odd but doable...
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by scratchedup View Post
                    wow
                    Tungsten Guide Book if great!
                    Wish we still had the "Miller TIG Handbook"

                    I still have not given up...

                    Hope they have not forgotton....
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                    Dynasty 200DX
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                    Millermatic 200

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                    • #25
                      I think what I might do is take the cover off and take careful pictures of the internals of machine, connections, torch, tungsten, pedal, gas tank & fittings...and post them here.

                      For what its worth one thing I did was replace the power cord with a 16' 6GA cable that plugs into 230v. I used huge terminal connectors inside the machine.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by scratchedup View Post
                        I think what I might do is take the cover off and take careful pictures of the internals of machine, connections, torch, tungsten, pedal, gas tank & fittings...and post them here.

                        For what its worth one thing I did was replace the power cord with a 16' 6GA cable that plugs into 230v. I used huge terminal connectors inside the machine.
                        Thas silly & a little dumb, machine only runs 20 amps at 230. a bit over kill don't ya think, Did you put the connectors on correct, ie NOT to the Red, so the first 2 two top lugs left to right

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                          Thas silly & a little dumb, machine only runs 20 amps at 230. a bit over kill don't ya think, Did you put the connectors on correct, ie NOT to the Red, so the first 2 two top lugs left to right
                          This stuff is not what I do for a living...it is a HOBBY. I am not a welding expert, an electric expert or even proficient...

                          I wanted a longer power cord so I went to The Home Depot and made a "deal" on what they had left of cable... They had 16' of 6ga and I got it for ~ 75% off.

                          I figures it could not hurt.... voltage dropppp.?????

                          Am I "silly and dumb"...I don't really give a shxxt...

                          My FEELING is that this forum is to help dump shxxxts like me. My fantasy.

                          For a living I deal with a $35,000,000 piece of equipment......kinda like a heavy equipment operator every day .

                          I need help with my used DX200.... yes.

                          Thanks for the input from you all.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by scratchedup View Post
                            This stuff is not what I do for a living...it is a HOBBY. I am not a welding expert, an electric expert or even proficient...

                            I wanted a longer power cord so I went to The Home Depot and made a "deal" on what they had left of cable... They had 16' of 6ga and I got it for ~ 75% off.

                            I figures it could not hurt.... voltage dropppp.?????

                            Am I "silly and dumb"...I don't really give a shxxt...

                            My FEELING is that this forum is to help dump shxxxts like me. My fantasy.

                            For a living I deal with a $35,000,000 piece of equipment......kinda like a heavy equipment operator every day .

                            I need help with my used DX200.... yes.

                            Thanks for the input from you all.
                            the 6ga cord is massive overkill,,, but so what..??

                            it won't hurt anything... and much better than undersized...

                            Hang in there... it will work out..
                            Last edited by H80N; 05-22-2014, 07:20 PM.
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                            *******************************************
                            The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                            “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                            Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                            My Blue Stuff:
                            Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                            Dynasty 200DX
                            Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                            Millermatic 200

                            TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by scratchedup View Post
                              This stuff is not what I do for a living...it is a HOBBY. I am not a welding expert, an electric expert or even proficient...

                              I wanted a longer power cord so I went to The Home Depot and made a "deal" on what they had left of cable... They had 16' of 6ga and I got it for ~ 75% off.

                              I figures it could not hurt.... voltage dropppp.?????

                              Am I "silly and dumb"...I don't really give a shxxt...

                              My FEELING is that this forum is to help dump shxxxts like me. My fantasy.

                              For a living I deal with a $35,000,000 piece of equipment......kinda like a heavy equipment operator every day .


                              I need help with my used DX200.... yes.

                              Thanks for the input from you all.
                              stay with it I'm a welding dummy to. Hey your not going to have any voltage drop.
                              Cruzier told me the other day I was silly and probably am don't take it to personal he's a great help.

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                              • #30
                                Its a 40 amp switch, How you fit a #6 cord on it is beyond me, true you won't get voltage drop, but a #10 would have been fine, even lugs and a #8. really want to make darn sure they are on the correct terminals though

                                Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but it was simply not nessessary
                                Last edited by cruizer; 05-22-2014, 09:30 PM.

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