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    i have a dynasty 200dx that i use onsite once in a while but i alsouse it in the garage where i got a twist lock 230v30amp receptacle on the wall and 30amp breaker!
    the Dynasty runs awesome on that!

    now what if i decide to use the millermatic 211? can i just make a pigtail on the welder to match the wall receptacle? is 230v 30a alright to use the millermatic 211?
    or must i change everything on the wall and breaker.......

  • #2
    Just make an adaptor pigtail...

    guys that do a lot of onsite work generally have several pigtails that adapt from 6-50 to various range and dryer plugs..
    you can never be sure what you have to plug in to when you get someplace...

    so yes adapter pigtails are a common solution....
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    • #3
      I have 4 or 5 adapter pigtails I use all the time on job sites.

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      • #4
        I knew that the Dynasty you could,wasnt sure about the millermatic 211..
        Last edited by Rhinox; 03-06-2014, 01:36 PM.

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        • #5
          Dynasty 200dx and millermatic 211 wiring in the garage

          thanks...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rhinox View Post
            I knew that the Dynasty you could,wasnt sure about the millermatic 211..
            They are both in the same ballpark..

            The Millermatic 211 draws 230 V, 25 A, 60 Hz, Single-Phase

            The Dynasty 200DX draws 230 V, 28 A, 60 Hz, Single-Phase


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            *******************************************
            The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

            “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

            Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

            My Blue Stuff:
            Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
            Dynasty 200DX
            Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
            Millermatic 200

            TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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            • #7
              On Millers literature, welder amperage seems low to me. Am I stuck in the twentieth century, or are the numbers adjusted down for duty factor? My thinking is the perennial problem so many at home welders face is small wiring to the garage. In mild cases this can be addressed with welders equipped with "auto line" style automatic voltage adaptation. In less extreme situations more current in a supply line means more heat produced, and more voltage loss. As many welders can run on 200 volts, voltage loss isn't always debilitating. Voltage loss means heat! heat produced in 2 minutes can often cool while a 20% duty cycle welder cools.

              IT IS STILL ESSENTIAL TO CALCULATE ALL COMPONENTS OF A WELDER SUPPLY AND CAREFULLY INSTALL OR CHECK. A BAD CONNECTION MEANS A FIRE USUALLY IN A LOCATION YOU WON'T KNOW ABOUT UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
              Dynasty 280DX
              Bobcat 250
              MM252
              Spool gun
              Twentieth Century 295
              Twentieth Century 295 AC
              Marquette spot welder
              Smith torches

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Willie B View Post
                On Millers literature, welder amperage seems low to me. Am I stuck in the twentieth century, or are the numbers adjusted down for duty factor? My thinking is the perennial problem so many at home welders face is small wiring to the garage. In mild cases this can be addressed with welders equipped with "auto line" style automatic voltage adaptation. In less extreme situations more current in a supply line means more heat produced, and more voltage loss. As many welders can run on 200 volts, voltage loss isn't always debilitating. Voltage loss means heat! heat produced in 2 minutes can often cool while a 20% duty cycle welder cools.

                IT IS STILL ESSENTIAL TO CALCULATE ALL COMPONENTS OF A WELDER SUPPLY AND CAREFULLY INSTALL OR CHECK. A BAD CONNECTION MEANS A FIRE USUALLY IN A LOCATION YOU WON'T KNOW ABOUT UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
                Willie

                the numbers seem right to me....got them from the literature and manuals...
                remember.. both machines are inverters so they are going to draw considerably less power than the transformer machines we are used to..

                it does go to show how much more efficient the inverters are... and power factor considerations on the transformer machines that we don't need to worry about on an inverter..

                Here is a video that gives a lot of good general info on home garage welding.. (fair amount of sales pitch ... but a lot of good info as well)
                Starring.. Andy & John...

                Welding in your Home Garage

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdSdTtwN4i0

                about a half hour..
                .

                *******************************************
                The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                My Blue Stuff:
                Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                Dynasty 200DX
                Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                Millermatic 200

                TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                • #9
                  Dynasty 200dx and millermatic 211 wiring in the garage

                  got the millermatic 211 plugged in!!
                  work like a champ!
                  -tell me if i did some not right!

                  bought an extension cord 25' with 2 ends on it
                  -6-50r and the other end was 6-50p
                  -removed the 6-50p and replaced it with a 6-30p
                  twistlock to match the wall !!!

                  the wall , is 230v30amp as well the breaker

                  plugged it and tried it... worked very well!!

                  what you think????
                  any danger??

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rhinox View Post
                    got the millermatic 211 plugged in!!
                    work like a champ!
                    -tell me if i did some not right!

                    bought an extension cord 25' with 2 ends on it
                    -6-50r and the other end was 6-50p
                    -removed the 6-50p and replaced it with a 6-30p
                    twistlock to match the wall !!!

                    the wall , is 230v30amp as well the breaker

                    plugged it and tried it... worked very well!!

                    what you think????
                    any danger??
                    yer good to go.
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                    • #11
                      As long as your extension cord is 10 ga or bigger you are good to go! Nicely done!
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                      • #12
                        National Electrical Code Is adopted by each state with or without amendments. In every state I am aware of, all equipment used must be listed. What this means to us is: if it ain't mass produced any liability falls to you. When you cut a listed (UL or CSA) cord nothing bad better happen, or it's your fault.That said, will anything bad happen? You better know the answer! I often make up equipment to solve a problem, I know that each time I do I accept liability for not only what I do, but anyone else later does with it. I alter a cord, someone then shuts it in a garage door, a court of law is likely to rule that had I not altered the cord, Dumb Dumb wouldn't have been using it to do something dumb, wouldn't have shut it in the door! After all, Dumb Dumb has no insurance or assets, what would the point of blaming him?
                        Dynasty 280DX
                        Bobcat 250
                        MM252
                        Spool gun
                        Twentieth Century 295
                        Twentieth Century 295 AC
                        Marquette spot welder
                        Smith torches

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by H80N View Post
                          Originally posted by Willie B View Post
                          On Millers literature, welder amperage seems low to me. Am I stuck in the twentieth century, or are the numbers adjusted down for duty factor? My thinking is the perennial problem so many at home welders face is small wiring to the garage. In mild cases this can be addressed with welders equipped with "auto line" style automatic voltage adaptation. In less extreme situations more current in a supply line means more heat produced, and more voltage loss. As many welders can run on 200 volts, voltage loss isn't always debilitating. Voltage loss means heat! heat produced in 2 minutes can often cool while a 20% duty cycle welder cools.

                          IT IS STILL ESSENTIAL TO CALCULATE ALL COMPONENTS OF A WELDER SUPPLY AND CAREFULLY INSTALL OR CHECK. A BAD CONNECTION MEANS A FIRE USUALLY IN A LOCATION YOU WON'T KNOW ABOUT UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
                          Willie

                          the numbers seem right to me....got them from the literature and manuals...
                          remember.. both machines are inverters so they are going to draw considerably less power than the transformer machines we are used to..

                          it does go to show how much more efficient the inverters are... and power factor considerations on the transformer machines that we don't need to worry about on an inverter..

                          Here is a video that gives a lot of good general info on home garage welding.. (fair amount of sales pitch ... but a lot of good info as well)
                          Starring.. Andy & John...

                          Welding in your Home Garage

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdSdTtwN4i0

                          about a half hour..
                          Is the 211 an inverter? I always thought the multimatic was the first small all in one mig to be an inverter. And that's why it's so much lighter.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cgotto6 View Post
                            Is the 211 an inverter? I always thought the multimatic was the first small all in one mig to be an inverter. And that's why it's so much lighter.
                            I think I may have been mistaken I had read in a few places that the MM211 was an inverter.... BUT... other places say transformer.... and at 74 pounds... I am begining to suspect it is a transformer/SCR controlled machine...

                            have been unable to download the manual... so I will defer that to somebody who knows for sure....
                            .

                            *******************************************
                            The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                            “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                            Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                            My Blue Stuff:
                            Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                            Dynasty 200DX
                            Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                            Millermatic 200

                            TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                            • #15
                              8 awg is the size !!

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