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  • kestrel452
    started a topic Brand New Millermatic 211 Fouling Up

    Brand New Millermatic 211 Fouling Up

    Hey guys, I just bought a brand new Millermatic 211 from Weldfabulous as my first ever welder.

    I haven't really been having much luck with it. I've tried using it on three separate occasions. The first time was pretty rough.

    The second time I tried it out, a couple days ago, it went pretty well. I made a few okay-for-a-noob horizontal and flat joints like this one: http://i.imgur.com/iNtD8Ih.jpg

    Today though it went pretty horribly again. I used all the same settings as when I laid beads like the above photo, and the gun was stubbing like crazy. I tried checking all the connections, gas flow, putting on a new contact tip, changing ground clamp locations, and anything else I could think of or what the guys on Welding Web could suggest. I simply could not get the machine to work right. Using niether Auto-Set or the door chart settings could get it to work right. I tried using both the 220V generator and 120V wall socket. Eventually I was able to almost cure the stubbing by pretty much halving the WFS but it's too cold because the bead now has a tendency to pile up instead of tie in. I basically went from making welds like the above photo to this: http://i.imgur.com/lag5bBD.jpg

    I'm really reluctant to say so, but I think the welder might be defective. I REALLY don't want to go through the trouble of shipping this beast back to Weldfabulous if that's indeed what the problem is, maybe Miller would let me take it into a local authorized service center?

    Here's a video I took of what's happening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POBYWelr-AQ

  • aametalmaster
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    Originally posted by Grover View Post



    I am an administrator on a Harley Davidson forum with a quarter million members.
    Welcome to the Miller forums. I used to run the HD laser and robotic welder that was in York Pa and moved to Ohio running HD parts...Bob

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  • Grover
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    Thanks Guys

    I have just finished reading this thread all the way through. You have been most patient and helpful dealing with this guy.

    I have just bought Miller 211 with the dual voltage plug. I am in the process of getting it up and running. I have not done any welding since using a buzz box 40 years ago. I am retiring in a few months and bought the welder to use around the ranch and for general projects -- so far. I am thinking of doing art type welding too.

    I am an administrator on a Harley Davidson forum with a quarter million members. I can tell you that you were much easier on the OP than Harley riders would have been. It is good to know where to turn to learn when I need help.

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  • BD1
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    Yea, it sad. Everybody tries to help and some people she take the responses and run. I guess we we will never know the outcome. I'll try a PM to him.

    No reply as of , 3/15
    Last edited by BD1; 03-15-2014, 11:33 AM.

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  • elvis
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    Pretty frustrating!

    Since he never followed up I am going to guess it was something on his end. Maybe just a bad welder who was still learning the basics? There are enough variables that make it challenging to diag, let alone adding the new welder and powering it with a genny.

    I hope we hear back either way!

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  • Cgotto6
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    Seriously. People come here demanding help then most of the time you never hear the outcome. Doesn't help diagnose things down the road.

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  • Jimmydoc1
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    Ok, so some of you may feel that this thread is better off if left alone to die, but it's been long enough, we should know what happened.
    Did he get a new welder and it worked perfectly fine with his generator, or food he get a new welder and it acted the same and the gen was the problem or was it the weldor?
    I'd like to know! But I doubt we every will....

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  • alittlerusty
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    Brand New Millermatic 211 Fouling Up

    Wow just read the whole thread lol

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  • ericher69
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    Brand New Millermatic 211 Fouling Up

    Any update on the replacement machine?

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  • Cgotto6
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    Originally posted by ericher69 View Post
    Originally posted by labmaster02 View Post
    For what it's worth, I bought the same 211 welder. The first one came with the door hinges broken. I call and they offered to send me hinges. I refused and they sent another welder. The next one came and it also had the door damaged so bad I couldn't open it. Closer inspection showed the whole frame was bent. They suggested I stand on it to bend it back out. Needless to say I sent it back. They said they couldn't send another since the FedX in my area couldn't deliver without damage. They were good and gave my money back. I ended up buying from a local LWS where I could check it out. It was a little more expensive but worth it.
    Wtf is that??

    Can't ship without damaging? These welders are not bowling balls but they are not crystal vases either...
    Seriously, I would be real upset if fedex couldn't make it work. Glad mine showed up with out a hitch.

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  • ericher69
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    Originally posted by labmaster02 View Post
    For what it's worth, I bought the same 211 welder. The first one came with the door hinges broken. I call and they offered to send me hinges. I refused and they sent another welder. The next one came and it also had the door damaged so bad I couldn't open it. Closer inspection showed the whole frame was bent. They suggested I stand on it to bend it back out. Needless to say I sent it back. They said they couldn't send another since the FedX in my area couldn't deliver without damage. They were good and gave my money back. I ended up buying from a local LWS where I could check it out. It was a little more expensive but worth it.
    Wtf is that??

    Can't ship without damaging? These welders are not bowling balls but they are not crystal vases either...

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  • labmaster02
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    Brand New Millermatic 211 Fouling Up

    For what it's worth, I bought the same 211 welder. The first one came with the door hinges broken. I call and they offered to send me hinges. I refused and they sent another welder. The next one came and it also had the door damaged so bad I couldn't open it. Closer inspection showed the whole frame was bent. They suggested I stand on it to bend it back out. Needless to say I sent it back. They said they couldn't send another since the FedX in my area couldn't deliver without damage. They were good and gave my money back. I ended up buying from a local LWS where I could check it out. It was a little more expensive but worth it.

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  • BD1
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    What's all the fuss ? A member is having issues with a machine. So ?
    Everybody tries to contribute something that could help. The bottom line is HE can't get the machine to run correctly.
    However , there maybe others that may have the same issues but never asked. All that mentioned possible solutions may have solved someones else concerns. A simple thing like upgrading a ground clamp may have giving someone
    something else to try ; then when he went to replace it found the existing one had a loose screw.
    Anyway, I hope you get the replacement quickly and you keep us posted on the outcome. Good luck .

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  • kestrel452
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    Originally posted by BukitCase View Post
    No, what's dumb is expecting people on a totally different forum to be psychic enough to know what you've mentioned somewhere ELSE.

    Somehow I doubt that you'd order a car, and find that one of its doors was falling off when it arrived, and NOT wonder if MAYBE, just MAYBE, there might be SOMETHING ELSE that was wrong with it.

    Had you mentioned any of those details when asking for help HERE, I'd bet that MOST of the advise given by people trying to help would be DIFFERENT.

    Mainly, I got a little testy that you expected help while withholding what MOST people would consider VITAL information.

    Also, I never used the word "stupid" - in the english language, "dumb" and "ignorant" infer a lack of knowledge - "stupid" infers knowing better, but doing it anyway.

    Regardless of any irritation caused, I hope you get your welder straightened out - in my opinion, that would START with demanding a NEW one... Steve
    Well one thing is for sure, I'm not dumb enough to think you meant something innocent by saying "perhaps you are too dumb to own a welder". And perhaps this piece of information was "vital", but in all honesty you're taking yourself way too seriously by chewing me out. I don't know if you think it is your duty to make sure I get ridiculed, but I'd think as an intelligent individual you wouldn't feel it necessary to do so.

    A door falling off of a car is a bit different than a plastic hinge breaking off of a power tool. Just saying...

    Thank you for your good wishes regarding my welder exchange, hopefully this sorts it all out.

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  • BukitCase
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    No, what's dumb is expecting people on a totally different forum to be psychic enough to know what you've mentioned somewhere ELSE.

    Somehow I doubt that you'd order a car, and find that one of its doors was falling off when it arrived, and NOT wonder if MAYBE, just MAYBE, there might be SOMETHING ELSE that was wrong with it.

    Had you mentioned any of those details when asking for help HERE, I'd bet that MOST of the advise given by people trying to help would be DIFFERENT.

    Mainly, I got a little testy that you expected help while withholding what MOST people would consider VITAL information.

    Also, I never used the word "stupid" - in the english language, "dumb" and "ignorant" infer a lack of knowledge - "stupid" infers knowing better, but doing it anyway.

    Regardless of any irritation caused, I hope you get your welder straightened out - in my opinion, that would START with demanding a NEW one... Steve

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