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  • Thermal Arc Fabricator 252i

    I sold my MM 252 awhile back and I'm looking at a Thermal arc 252i as a replacement. I watched a video over at welding tips and tricks and it has perked my interest. Anyone have any thoughts or input? BTW I got the old Hobart CR 300 going. Thanks Cruiser.

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    I demoed one, it seemed very nice.

    I had asked a year or so ago at my LWS, and they had no opinion about the 252i. When I asked recently, they were very negative on it, indicating that they had had problems with more than one of them.

    Honestly, I was ready to buy a 252i, but they talked me out of it. In some ways the 252i would be kind of a dream welder for me, small, 300 amps output, and multiprocess. But it looks like I will instead be buying a Millermatic 211 before the end of the year.

    Richard



    Originally posted by sledsports View Post
    I sold my MM 252 awhile back and I'm looking at a Thermal arc 252i as a replacement. I watched a video over at welding tips and tricks and it has perked my interest. Anyone have any thoughts or input? BTW I got the old Hobart CR 300 going. Thanks Cruiser.

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    • #3
      I have bought a total of 3 thermal arc 252i's. One for myself one each for two of the dairys that i service no problems with any of the machines. One welder is almost 2 years old , one is 1 year old this month and my own welder is will be 1 year old in january.

      The first time i heard of a problem with the 252i was a post on the welding web and there has been no more information about what kind of problems they had.


      One 252i replaced a MM250X at one of the dairys. Two of the welders were bought with the single cylinder cart from Thermal Arc that makes a very compact and portable unit, two people can lift it into the back of a pickup or a gator.

      I would not look down at the Thermal Arc welders they are a quality built unit just like a Miller.


      I also own a mm211

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      • #4
        Thanks guys for your input. My local guy gave it good grades overall so I may try it out.

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        • #5
          You might want to doublecheck...

          but if I am not mistaken.. that machine is one of their Made in China welders...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by H80N View Post
            You might want to doublecheck...

            but if I am not mistaken.. that machine is one of their Made in China welders...
            Yup just like the "assembled in USA" Millermatic 252's

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ericher69 View Post
              Yup just like the "assembled in USA" Millermatic 252's
              NOPE...

              I Meant "MADE IN CHINA"............

              The MM252 is built in Appleton...
              Last edited by H80N; 11-05-2013, 08:33 PM.

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              • #8
                The 252I is built properly with NONE of the usual China internals. Just cause its built somewhere else to keep the costs down, it doesn't mean that its engineered wrong. Actually alot of the parts originate in Japan, and the States. I personally like the design. Internally its logical, simple to trouble shoot and repair. 4 years of un needed waranty to boot! I have customers here who love them. And customer service is only second to Miller

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                  The 252I is built properly with NONE of the usual China internals. Just cause its built somewhere else to keep the costs down, it doesn't mean that its engineered wrong. Actually alot of the parts originate in Japan, and the States. I personally like the design. Internally its logical, simple to trouble shoot and repair. 4 years of un needed waranty to boot! I have customers here who love them. And customer service is only second to Miller
                  That is good to know... but I think I will hang on to my MM350P...

                  did like their Sanrex built TIG machines though...(not as much as my Dynasties .. but they were a good machine...alas they are extinct and replaced with..... ?? ..)
                  Last edited by H80N; 11-06-2013, 05:06 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                    The 252I is built properly with NONE of the usual China internals. Just cause its built somewhere else to keep the costs down, it doesn't mean that its engineered wrong. Actually alot of the parts originate in Japan, and the States. I personally like the design. Internally its logical, simple to trouble shoot and repair. 4 years of un needed waranty to boot! I have customers here who love them. And customer service is only second to Miller
                    Thank you Cruiser. I know its not blue and it may look odd sitting beside the big blue synchro 350 but I do believe this will be sitting in the same hole the MM 252 was sitting. I dont use a mig enough to justify the extra coin for a 350p (although I do drool when ever I see one and that was the original plan). Just general repairs on some farm equipment and fabrication on the pulling tractors. Should be well suited for that I hope.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by H80N View Post
                      That is good to know... but I think I will hang on to my MM350P...

                      did like their Sanrex built TIG machines though...(not as much as my Dynasties .. but they were a good machine...alas they are extinct and replaced with..... ?? ..)
                      Thanks for your reply too H80N. If I had a 350p I wouldn't be lookin at anything. I'm sure they are the cats meow but I'm to poor to pay attention right now. I'm a tractor puller so it comes with the territory lol.

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                      • #12
                        How about a MM200,,??

                        Originally posted by sledsports View Post
                        Thanks for your reply too H80N. If I had a 350p I wouldn't be lookin at anything. I'm sure they are the cats meow but I'm to poor to pay attention right now. I'm a tractor puller so it comes with the territory lol.
                        If money is tight you might consider a Millermaric 200...

                        lots of them on the used market in the $400-600 range...

                        they have a beautiful arc and have specs and duty cycle nearly identical to the MM252...(270amps @ 35% Duty Cycle..) & Built like a MACK TRUCK

                        See page #13

                        http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o1303p_mil.pdf

                        It is truly a classic machine.. & a well kept secret...

                        Still have mine..

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                        • #13
                          I get MANY 350P's in here, probably one of the most troublesome machines for my (industrial) customers. Right now there is 6 sitting here. Not much I don't know about them. Get way to many of them though compared with other machines.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by H80N View Post
                            Originally posted by ericher69 View Post
                            Yup just like the "assembled in USA" Millermatic 252's
                            NOPE...

                            I Meant "MADE IN CHINA"............

                            The MM252 is built in Appleton...
                            Not so! You need to recheck your sources.

                            As of March this year they may be assembled in Appleton...but definitely not "made" in Appleton.

                            I should know I bought one in June and clearly said "assembled in America"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ericher69 View Post
                              Not so! You need to recheck your sources.

                              As of March this year they may be assembled in Appleton...but definitely not "made" in Appleton.

                              I should know I bought one in June and clearly said "assembled in America"
                              If you read my post..it clearly states "The MM252 is BUILT in Appleton"...

                              I used the word BUILT on purpose...
                              Last edited by H80N; 11-07-2013, 05:19 PM.

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