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Can i use an old ICE 50 torch on a Spectrum 500 plasma machine

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  • Can i use an old ICE 50 torch on a Spectrum 500 plasma machine

    I have a Spectrum 701 with 2 PC boards that bad. I wanted to switch the torch to an old Spectrum 500 that still works because we have a lot of consumables for the ICE 50. Can take out the quick connect from the 701 and fit it to the 500? It looks like the ICE 50 has 1 more wire than the APT 5000 that is on the 500. I searched for wiring diagrams/spec sheet on the torch, but couldn't find anything. I know they sell an adapter but if I can swap them out with out buying anything else it would be worth a try. The extra wire was hooked up to a contact in the 701 and I'm not sure where it would go on the 500 machine. Any advise or comments would be greatly appreciated.

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    Do not know how helpful this will be...

    but here is the manual that covers the ICE-50 Plasma Torch..

    http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o1591b.pdf

    and the manual that covers Spectrum 500 torch hookup..

    Figure 5-7 on page 17 shows hookup..

    http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o204h_mil.pdf

    Cruizer could probably answer this one quickly if he is around..
    Last edited by H80N; 11-01-2013, 08:01 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by H80N View Post
      Do not know how helpful this will be...

      but here is the manual that covers the ICE-50 Plasma Torch..

      http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o1591b.pdf

      Cruizer could probably answer this one quickly if he is around..
      I noticed the torch I have is different from the manual. Ours has the safety trigger (you have to lift then press). Anyone know if there are different makes of the ICE 50? Not sure if the quick connect plug has anything to do with it. Also has more wires than in this manual.
      Thanks for the info H80N.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JoseV View Post
        I noticed the torch I have is different from the manual. Ours has the safety trigger (you have to lift then press). Anyone know if there are different makes of the ICE 50? Not sure if the quick connect plug has anything to do with it. Also has more wires than in this manual.
        Thanks for the info H80N.
        Jose

        see if this version works...

        it is for the ICE-50C and has the "Safety Trigger"

        http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o1593t_mil.pdf
        Last edited by H80N; 11-01-2013, 08:19 AM.

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        • #5
          You will have to make sure of torch compatability as to whether "HF" or "Pilot Arc" will have to be checked...
          That could be a showstopper..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by H80N View Post
            You will have to make sure of torch compatability as to whether "HF" or "Pilot Arc" will have to be checked...
            That could be a showstopper..
            If someone knows if this is possible, please let me know. the serial #on the Spec. 500 is KE572456. The torch came with a Spec. 701 machine serial# KK255975. Its a plugin type torch. Is it worth trying to change over? If not I guess I just have a ICE 50 torch for sale and thanks again H80N you've been helpful

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