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  • #31
    stick welding open root

    As we know all welders are different. But also depends on rod manufacturer.
    Was welding cast with 1/8 Nickel rod last week and ran out. LWS is 30 mile away, so went to local auto parts store & grabed 1-lb. Nickel rod.
    As per box recommendation there was 40 amp. Difference. Both 1/8 " and both 55% just different mfg. look on box just to be sure.

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    • #32
      Like I said yesterday.... if you keep everything the same... ROD, GAP, TEMP, and just tweek your movement and positioning you will get it. Now I agree with the temp adjustment I've been welding since I was 13 in FFA, So for me 90-95 amps is more plausible than someone just starting. That being said. When you drop the amps and it sticks it could be that your rod angle isnt right or that your overall technique needs work....whatever you do dont quit... Burn rods til you get it and dont look back!!

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      • #33
        In response to what you said about the sound.... it sounds like frying bacon... that what they taught us to listen for too!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Missouripipewelder View Post
          In response to what you said about the sound.... it sounds like frying bacon... that what they taught us to listen for too!
          OK, OK...maybe frying bacon is a TINY bit more PC than a horse pissing in a bucket....But DO listen for the sound...there are some good clues there!

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          • #35
            open root

            take your time. it takes time. i always say the fit up of the joint is 75% of the end result.
            heck with it .you will learn. learn by doing things.
            someone once said: there are no mistakes in life just lessons. so learn your lesson and continue.

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            • #36
              aced it

              Just an update. I got a %100 on the open root last week and a %100 on every project in flat position. Now we are in.horizontal this week.

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              • #37
                Congrats... keep up the good work. Where you going to school at?

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                • #38
                  New Castle School of Trades

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                  • #39
                    Tips on welding open root in horizontal??

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                    • #40
                      Same temp, gap, and land as flat just grind your tacks, make sure that their tied in and jam that rod in there and dont get frustrated..... also somethin that helped me was to tack it up at eye level and use a C clamp vise grip to prop my elbow on. Worked good for me to have an arm steady. Good luck man.

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                      • #41
                        stick welding open root

                        Had to be 1/8" not 3/32 6010 .... Doesn't add up . No one runs 6010 3/32 rod that hot . I don't use the crap often its baby rod but if I was going to run a root pass it would be in the mid 60's now 1/8" runs great at 89-95 . I just fired up a 3/32 6010 rod at 90 ha!!! It is like a cutting torch . I call bullsh*t. Kid your running 1/8 . There is no way your sticks when you drop below 90 with a 3/32 rod 6010. Heck not even 7018 you could run that cold at 87 amps all day
                        Last edited by drpipe; 05-01-2013, 12:46 AM.

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                        • #42
                          I swear I was running 3/32 6010 that's what I was supposed to use. My machine(lincoln) at school runs hot. I'm not bull****ting I'm here to get help so I'm not lying. I'm running it at 80 amps now without sticking..... The sticking was a problem w technique not heat.

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                          • #43
                            Drpipe ? Really... how much 6010 have you did? I personally have used so much its pathedic... I run my root in at 90-95 amps like clockwork,. Now it is the very top of the range on the rod but definatly not bull****. I call bull**** on the "drpipe." This kids just starting out and coming here for advice. If ya cant try to help the kid out shut the **** up or try to stay true to the forum topic.

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                            • #44
                              stick welding open root

                              I don't know why u call 3/32 a baby rod? All rods hv there place!! I was finishing a dozer repair today, I ran 3/32, 1/8, & 5/32 rods all day long. I sure didn't feel like a real man when I was running the 5/32 rods.
                              A big tree took out the A/C cage on top rear of cab. Had to cut off & make a new one, most of it was 1/8 & 3/16. Fab. most of it in shop then fit & finished in field. Used 3/32, 7018 rods between 80 to 100 amps. I adjusted amps a lot as my welding required ie. up, down, flat, different thickness, corner, butt etc. welded great!!
                              7018's run at higher amps but that was thin metal and I was on the cold side of how I normally weld.
                              Likewise had to plate & repair blade, used a lot of 7018, 1/8 rods. Ran them 140-150 amps.
                              I do all kinds of fab & repair work with all different metals and I weld in and out of the recommended ranges all day long. There a good starting point but in the real world we learn what works best and build on that. The day I quit learning is the day I will look for another job.
                              Practice & learn there is no limit. Good Luck.
                              Greg

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                              • #45
                                Thanks Greg

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