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  • not welding but...plasma cutter?

    Not a "welding" question so not sure it belongs but bet someone will know the answer.

    Just bought the Miller 211 dual volt auto set. Like it...perfect for my needs.

    I'm looking at plasma cutters. Its down to Hypotherm 30 or Miller Spectrum 375 X treme. 3/8 is pretty much as thick as i will ever cut.

    I'm very close on the Miller. I think it has a nicer gun with the XT30. Like the auto refire, dual voltage and...well its blue!

    Any comments?

  • #2
    I have a Miller 211 and a Spectrum 375 (not Extreme). They make a good setup. Will handle anything I need as a home hobbiest, but even in a more demanding shop I think you would be pleased.

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    • #3
      I was thinking of the non extreme 375...its a few bucks less expensive but i think there are a couple options on the extreme worth the marginal difference. Its smaller size will fit on the lower area of my existing welding cart. I think its a bit lighter if I need to lug it around and not sure if the non extreme has the newer gun. I think some do but not all. I think if its as good as the 211 I'll be happy.

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      • #4
        I have a thermal dynamics cutmaster 42. I like it a lot. I have cut 1/2" with it. It was slow, but effective. I usually cut 1/8", 3/16" and 1/4" but every now and then I need a little bigger. Nice to have the ability. It only needs 3cfm or so of air to run which is great. I've used an 875 and I was disappointed with consumable life. Yes it was running nice dry air. I wouldn't rule out this machine, even for how inexpensive it is.

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        • #5
          Between the two, I would go with the HP30, but I have heard good things about the Cutmaster 42 also.

          You might also consider the Longevity ForceCut 42i. I won one in their last contest, and it is a nice unit.

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          • #6
            not welding but...plasma cutter?

            I own the 375 x-treme andI have nothing bad to say about it. On one event iv actually done 1/2" too. I use this machin alot and i love it.

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            • #7
              Thermo Dynamics, Cutmaster, Miller or HP30. Now the list is even longer! LOL.
              Everyone claims more amps but they all appear to cut the samt thickness?
              For some reason their are 2 HP30's out their and one place lists one as a HP30 American Built and its about 200 bucks less than the one listed as just a HP30. Have sent a message asking the difference but no answer. Anyone know?
              Thermo Dynamics and Cut master my only concern is feed back on them is good or not good. Its almost like if their is a problem its a pain in the butt. And getting replacement parts anywhere. Miller or HP any city will have several dealers.

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              • #8
                not welding but...plasma cutter?

                I just ordered a Spectrum 625 Xtreme unit. Should be just the size I need for my company. Pretty anxious to get it setup and see how it works!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TSBWeld View Post
                  I just ordered a Spectrum 625 Xtreme unit. Should be just the size I need for my company. Pretty anxious to get it setup and see how it works!
                  I have the 625 Xtreme and love it. I use it so much more than I thought I would when I bought it.
                  Last edited by kvwall; 02-22-2013, 08:57 AM. Reason: spelling correction

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                  • #10
                    I bought a td cutmaster because of price and the fact my airgas can get parts. I have had it for a few months and it has been a solid performer. No complaints!

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                    • #11
                      OK...now a question about the torches. Some are 90 degree. Some 70. I see the term drag torch. What is that. Stand off...I think some torches don't accept one. If understand you want a stand off cutting thicker stuff. Some have pretty short cables.

                      The extra grunt and lower price of the Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 42 has got me looking at it. But made in China?

                      Got a bit turned off the HP 30 after talking to dealer. He would not explain the difference between the HP30 and HP30 G3. HP site sort if reads the G3 is assembled by what they call an affiliate company. So why 200 less than the non G3. Anyway I think they are off the list just for avoiding the question.

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                      • #12
                        I got a cutmaster 42. Love it. After a few months of having it, I am glad I didn't spend the extra money on the other models I was considering.

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                        • #13
                          Some users prefer a 90 degree hand torch (hand grip is 90 degrees from the arc) some prefer a 70 degree. The same is true with MIG welding handles....so it is simply a matter of personal preference.

                          In regards to the "HP30".....actually is called a Powermax30. There is only one version of it....and it is G3 (generation 3). There are a few different packages available...such as the "All American Edition" which is a promotion to support American Built products. All Hypertherm plasma systems and consumables are built in Hypertherm's facilities in Hanover and Lebanon NH, USA. No exceptions to that.

                          A drag torch is a hand torch and related consumable parts that are designed for drag cutting with the frontmost part of the torch resting right on the plate. These torches can also be guided along the edge of a template. An exposed nozzle torch can be dragged on the plate if its amperage is less than 35 amps. Over 35 amps and you will get a "double arc" from the nozzle to the plate that will rapidly wear the nozzle and will cause the torch to stick to the plate while dragging...making for a rough cut. Torches above 35 amps in Hypertherm's Powermax product line (up to 200 amps) have shielded technology with a special drag cutting shield that allows easy template or straightedge cutting with no double arcing...and extremely long consumable life.

                          Hypertherm systems from 45 amps and higher have optional torch lead lengths to as much as 75' long.

                          Sorry if the Hypertherm dealer was not helpful....and there is no "affiliate company" that builds Powermax30's.....and all Powermax 30's have exactly the same internals and performance levels.

                          Jim Colt Hypertherm


                          Originally posted by gsims View Post
                          OK...now a question about the torches. Some are 90 degree. Some 70. I see the term drag torch. What is that. Stand off...I think some torches don't accept one. If understand you want a stand off cutting thicker stuff. Some have pretty short cables.

                          The extra grunt and lower price of the Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 42 has got me looking at it. But made in China?

                          Got a bit turned off the HP 30 after talking to dealer. He would not explain the difference between the HP30 and HP30 G3. HP site sort if reads the G3 is assembled by what they call an affiliate company. So why 200 less than the non G3. Anyway I think they are off the list just for avoiding the question.

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                          • #14
                            The "American Built, Building America" version of the Powermax30 is a promotion about American made products. All Hypertherm plasma is American built....and under the fancy painted cover on this unit is the same exact power supply as the regular Powermax 30.

                            Amps is not what determines maximum thickness....rather, it is the torch design combined with the Killowatt output capability of the power supply. Killowatt output is determined by the rated amperage x the rated maximum load voltage.

                            Jim Colt


                            Originally posted by gsims View Post
                            Thermo Dynamics, Cutmaster, Miller or HP30. Now the list is even longer! LOL.
                            Everyone claims more amps but they all appear to cut the samt thickness?
                            For some reason their are 2 HP30's out their and one place lists one as a HP30 American Built and its about 200 bucks less than the one listed as just a HP30. Have sent a message asking the difference but no answer. Anyone know?
                            Thermo Dynamics and Cut master my only concern is feed back on them is good or not good. Its almost like if their is a problem its a pain in the butt. And getting replacement parts anywhere. Miller or HP any city will have several dealers.

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                            • #15
                              Xtreme vs. non Xtreme

                              I have owned both and can tell you from experience that if you want to use the 110 volt option, don't even think about the non-Xtreme model. Even at very low settings, it will trip your breaker, even up to 20 amp. The Xtreme is a great improvement, and will cut thicker material on 110 than the non X without tripping breakers.

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