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  • Mig welding is proving to be a bit tricky for me never welding before.

    Well I finally been able to fire up the new MM211. I have to say its a little tricky. I been watching instructional videos and reading books. But, I guess nothing can teach you to weld like actual welding time.

    I am curious if anyone has some good videos or how to vids. I have watched many. I read the info on the miller owners club information. I did watch alot of the welding tips and tricks, and alot of others. I think I might have to take a class or classes. Thing is I am going to be moving soon and not sure exactly what county I am going to end up in.

    I would appreciate any pointers. I saw one series of two videos mig and advanced mig welding from what looks like a welding instructer he said take two pieces of round stock so that way its easier to get used to the heat managment and not having to worry as much of a steady hand. He said you can almost ride the nozzle on the top since your welding kind of down in the middle of the two round pieces. I am not sure if i am explaining that right, but it did seem to make some sense.

    Also the auto adjust helmet I got. Its a lincoln was on sale for 160 originally like 185.00 seems like a nice helmet has 4 sensors, but let me ask for mig welding How dark does it need to be its 9-13? when I fired my first kind of weld man that thing blacked out I thought i blew the power. I was like wtf then realised its the auto adjust. I think I have it set to sensative and to dark cause I am having a really hard time seeing it at all. I think its the lincoln viking, I can get the exact name but seems like a nice helmet. I didnt get one with graphics its just black. It did come with some stickers but I didnt put any on. Cause since I got a miller I would have prefered I went with a miller helmet so anyhow thats why I just leave it black.


    Thanks In advance this forum and site has been really helpful.


    Pat M AKA PMAC

  • Sberry
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    The 030 is the only wire needed for that unit unless you have a steady diet of auto sheet metal

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  • shovelon
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    That is great advise Jeff.

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  • Jeff2013
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    My Experience

    Hi pmac,

    My first experience with MIG was last spring. I had done some stick welding at a shop when I was in high school... but, that had been 40 years prior. (And I wasn't very good then.)

    I took classes at a local welding supply company (Sutton-Garten in Indy). The instructor, Dave Diller, was great to work with. They have a number of individual cells set up for stick, MIG, and TIG. Dave was available for instruction and critiquing the welds; but, the biggest benefit to me was 4 hours of weld time and all the scrap metal you could weld together.

    Last year I took 6 lessons. The first was good, the second was not so good, and by the third lesson I was ready to quit. A friend took the class at the same time, and his hand-eye coordination was better than me. He advanced to out of position welds before me... and I guess I took that personally.

    Long story short, I'll repeat the things some other guys here have mentioned that made the biggest difference to me:

    1. Auto darkening helmet - A good auto-darkening helmet complete took away the variable of dropping my hood and trying to figure out how far out of position my hand had moved.
    2. Auto dark setting - I set my helmet too dark. I was told that 9 was too light; but, that is what I have been using with no spots after welding... so I'll continue.
    3. Cheater lens - I use reading glasses and I had no idea how important that slight improvement would make. The cheater lens was probably more important than any other factor in helping me improve.
    4. External lighting - Good lighting for set-up and getting your bearings before you strike the arc is important.
    5. Optic distance - Don't get too close, or too far from the weld. You'll know where you're where you need to be when you can see the puddle and the work piece, and everything is in focus.
    6. "Vision" of the puddle - Really watching the puddle was critical.... I was only able to get good at that when all the other things above were accomplished.
    7. Practice - Even if it's only holding the torch while you watch a race on television... get to the point where it feels comfortable in your hand. Stay loose. I was so up tight after a few lessons that the instructor couldn't believe I could do as well as I had been doing. It's all about getting comfortable... at least for me.

    There are some really great videos online. The more I watch, the more comfortable I get, and the more excited I am about getting better. I'm kind of a slow learner... once the ball gets rolling, though, the process improves.

    I'm far from being an expert (in fact I'm barely a beginner). The other guys here really know there stuff. I hope some of these basics help you, though.

    Good luck.

    Jeff

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  • pmac
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    Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    You will need different rollers for .023 and then for larger wire but in reality the .030
    Wire will work for a wide range and more so since you are just starting

    Go weld some **** together

    Right now yer discussing guitar string size but haven't learned to play the guitar

    You gotta learn smoke on the water first ��

    Ya I have always been that way. the first real song, not book stuff I learned on the guitar was stairway to heaven.

    I guess I am a bit of a horder collector. I do have enough right now to just weld and actually learn. I do want to get some more wire and tips and a spare nozzle or two. Ohhh and the halogen light set up and two of them carts.

    I guess I will just get a 10lb spool of the .030.

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  • Broccoli1
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    Originally posted by pmac View Post
    Ya i misunderstsand what it meant on the roller. The one side is like .030-.035
    and the other side is for the smaller stuff.

    I met resistance on the carts. But I wont let that stand in my way. God i just hope he still has then in a week or so.

    I got the HOW MUCH are you going to spend you already spent 1600.00

    But no worries, I will passify for a few days and then do my thing.

    I have to get away from carpentry. I cant take steps, or work on ladders anymore. There is no way I can continue. I have to be on a level surface shop type environment. Cause of two knees that need replaced. Motocross was hard on the body and tore me up pretty good. So in time, Thats all I am going to do is weld.
    You will need different rollers for .023 and then for larger wire but in reality the .030
    Wire will work for a wide range and more so since you are just starting

    Go weld some **** together

    Right now yer discussing guitar string size but haven't learned to play the guitar

    You gotta learn smoke on the water first ��
    Last edited by Broccoli1; 01-18-2013, 06:44 PM.

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  • pmac
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    Originally posted by Cgotto6 View Post
    Plasma is not meant to cut glass. I get all my consumables at my lws.

    Ok ya I wasnt sure If I saw that or not. I thought i did see the plasma will cut glass, but i must have been mistaking.


    So the lws. Ok I need more stuff. Right now like i said I am getting resistance from my other half. But its not going to last. I DO WHAT I WANT TO DO I aint letting someone tell me how I AM GOING TO SPEND OUR MONEY LOLOLOL! Jk. I will be reasonable and try to pick up them carts next week. GEESH!

    Just cause i sometimes mistake and call them toys, they are really TOOLS! She dont get that, not only am I going to be welding, but SO IS SHE! She just dont understand it yet. She is very artsy and I know she will love doing the more artsy creative stuff. I mean we both play several instraments, she was in many bands, from dance to rock, she loves to paint, She just dont know how much she loves to weld YET!

    And **** Its only MONEY!

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  • pmac
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    Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    You don't need any new rollers-

    the MM211 comes with all you need

    Ya i misunderstsand what it meant on the roller. The one side is like .030-.035
    and the other side is for the smaller stuff.

    I met resistance on the carts. But I wont let that stand in my way. God i just hope he still has then in a week or so.

    I got the HOW MUCH are you going to spend you already spent 1600.00

    But no worries, I will passify for a few days and then do my thing.

    I have to get away from carpentry. I cant take steps, or work on ladders anymore. There is no way I can continue. I have to be on a level surface shop type environment. Cause of two knees that need replaced. Motocross was hard on the body and tore me up pretty good. So in time, Thats all I am going to do is weld.

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  • Broccoli1
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    Originally posted by Frank865 View Post
    So, how are you liking the 211???
    I like the MM211 but prefer the arc of the Passport also

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  • Frank865
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    Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    My wife told me this morning that she wants the Passport back, she likes the arc better than the MM211


    ( she does weld)
    So, how are you liking the 211???

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  • Broccoli1
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    My wife told me this morning that she wants the Passport back, she likes the arc better than the MM211


    ( she does weld)

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  • BD1
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    ''LOL thats right its not for another 8 months but I never have a problem getting her an early present for her that I want. And I do want her to learn to weld as well. She is more artsy then me. She would be good at decorative things. So she is going to learn as well. Be a two person team. ''

    Wedding gift, get HER a MILLER 200 Syncro , tig and stick. This way YOU can
    STICK it to her.

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  • Cgotto6
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    Plasma is not meant to cut glass. I get all my consumables at my lws.

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  • Broccoli1
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    You don't need any new rollers-

    the MM211 comes with all you need

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  • pmac
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    Originally posted by BD1 View Post
    YES ! Do you have any metal storage areas ??? A cart on WHEELS would be awesome for short pieces, buckets, milk crates, etc. You could even use one for a chop saw table. Use one for a cart and add steel to the other for the table. Definitely will make storage for organizing tools, grinders, clamps, etc. You can never have enough. A cart on wheels has many uses. It'sonly money. When's the wife's birthday ? Great gift. I never deprive my wife of anything I WANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    LOL thats right its not for another 8 months but I never have a problem getting her an early present for her that I want. And I do want her to learn to weld as well. She is more artsy then me. She would be good at decorative things. So she is going to learn as well. Be a two person team.

    I do have some nice pieces of steel to add to the one cart and the welder setup and tools to the other. I knew I should have bought them soon as I saw them.

    I will get them tomorrow as long as the seller is available and he should be good and ready to sell them by now.

    I just got my miller owners club thing in the mail with a nice set of decals that will go very nice on them carts!


    Thanks again to you and everyone who have given me so much information.

    My next beads i will get uploaded. Like its been said I will just practice running the beads on metal not trying to join anything just trying to get familier. I got a nice 3/4 inch piece of smoked glass that would make a great coffee table and two really nice end tables.

    Do the plasma cutters cut glass. I could swear I read they did, but not sure. That will be my next Bigger item. I will get the halogen and the stuff I need. Also where should I get the rollers for differnt size wire and nozzles and other consumables for the welder? I cant wait to get some more stuff. I am kinda of a horder when it comes to toys, dam it I mean TOOLS!
    Last edited by pmac; 01-16-2013, 12:29 AM.

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