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  • #16
    I would "guess"

    I would "guess" that more than half your pay would go out the door...So a bit more than double what you want as take home and you might be close.
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    • #17
      I spoke to the owner via telephone about discussing a higher pay scale if I am chosen. H stated since they do not pay for workman comp etc... they can pay more. If they chaos me they will make me an offer and we will go from there. I was thinking $30. What ya think?

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      • #18
        Good job? independant contractor?

        Way low. He is sticking you with his 7.5% SS, 14% work mans comp, and you are responsible for liability insurance. Some states, like NY State, require you take out work mans comp regardless if your an owner or employee.
        Would you do the job for below federal poverty pay?

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        • #19
          Independant Contractor

          What ever number you agree to will need to be a lot higher than $30.00 dollars. That would leave you about $19.00 dollars a hour. This money would be required to pay all your cost, plus your wage. Most company's are going to require you have an insurance policy. If you are mobile you have not purchased fuel or any other equipment, let a lone any wear and tear. You could double the rate and still come up short. You need to have a dollar amount you want to take home and use a 34 percent increase for all other equipment you are going to need.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Hardrockshot View Post
            What ever number you agree to will need to be a lot higher than $30.00 dollars. That would leave you about $19.00 dollars a hour. This money would be required to pay all your cost, plus your wage. Most company's are going to require you have an insurance policy. If you are mobile you have not purchased fuel or any other equipment, let a lone any wear and tear. You could double the rate and still come up short. You need to have a dollar amount you want to take home and use a 34 percent increase for all other equipment you are going to need.
            So what ever I want per hour add 35 percent? He also stated they give raises often.....let me know.....

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            • #21
              Let's say I want to take home $25 an hour. I'd have to ask for $35 to pay for cost.

              $25 an hour is a lot of money in Florida. But if I was doing a side job I charge $50 at least.
              Last edited by westpoint; 12-14-2012, 12:42 PM.

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              • #22
                is this in a shop?
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                • #23
                  You really need to find out what the company requires of you, ins., workers comp, use your own equipment or theirs, etc. If you have to pay ssi that alone is 15.4% of your gross. Fed tax depends on tax bracket, could be another 10% to 15%, health ins.. It all eats into your take home pay. Go talk to some of the employees to see what they are doing.
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                  • #24
                    It's in a shop or outside at one establishment. They deal with trucks that pick up large dumpsters. I would repairing small structural stuff on the trucks like tube s steel and plate and fenders. That's it really. My own tools. They supply welder and oxy acet. It's just so the company dost have to pay for workers comp insurance and crap. They pay my company not me as a person. I got a call from the owner offering 17 for entry level with a lot of room for promotions. I won't Need insurance or anything to work there.........I was thinking 20......

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by westpoint View Post
                      It's in a shop or outside at one establishment. They deal with trucks that pick up large dumpsters. I would repairing small structural stuff on the trucks like tube s steel and plate and fenders. That's it really. My own tools. They supply welder and oxy acet. It's just so the company dost have to pay for workers comp insurance and crap. They pay my company not me as a person. I got a call from the owner offering 17 for entry level with a lot of room for promotions. I won't Need insurance or anything to work there.........I was thinking 20......
                      The guy sure is working the system

                      17 bux for an Independant contractor ? Ha!

                      And what's this talk about promotion? You don't promote contractors
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                      • #26
                        Good job? independant contractor?

                        Go to McD's, all said and done, you'll make more take home at the end of the year.

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                        • #27
                          The question of whether a worker is an employee or an independent contractor affects more than just how the worker gets paid. It also affects the employer’s liability.

                          An employer’s liability under Florida contract and tort laws (including negligent acts that cause personal injury and liability for compensatory and punitive damages) is determined by extent to which the employer may be held liable for an employee’s actions within the course and scope of the employment. If the worker is an independent contractor, the employer isn’t liable.


                          He doesn't need you to get liability insurance, because if he gets an independent contractor to do the welding, it's now your responsibility. All law suits are now passed on to the contractor who performed the work (YOU)

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                          • #28
                            stay away from him...a guy that works the system like that mmm...

                            might not be very reliable .

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                            • #29
                              You should RUN away, not walk away, from this "deal".

                              The guy isn't doing this for you out of the goodness of his heart, if he was truely in a legit business he would already have workmens comp, tax withholding, liability, etc. etc. already set up. His only interest is saving himself money, and the easiest way to do so is by screwing you and others like you over. I ran into a few guys like this thirty years ago, when starting out, I never drank the Kool-aid. I didn't inhale it either
                              Obviously, I'm just a hack-artist, you shouldn't be listening to anything I say .....

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                              • #30
                                ok here me out. i understand what you guys are saying and i appreciate the advice....but

                                this company is just like me working for a company when it comes to using their welder, their cutting torch, their welding wire, their electricity...all i need are hand tools, and a grinder.......

                                what the guy is doing is trying not to pay workmans comp, insurance, and bebifits.

                                now the way i figured the #'s is.......for insurance, coorperation, workers comp its $1 an hour for the year at 40 hours a week.

                                plus i was paying taxes before, so paying them now will all be the same.

                                so at $21 an hour i am making 14k more a year, and only have to pay for corperation, workmans comp, and insurance.....then write off gas, clothes, phone, tools........on taxes.

                                does that seem right?

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