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can i weld aluminum with a miller suitcase x-treme 8vs and 12vs?

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  • can i weld aluminum with a miller suitcase x-treme 8vs and 12vs?

    i currently have a miller "the legend" aead-200le and was thinking of buying one of these suitcase mig guns. The 2012 miller catalog says they do not recommend using AC power sources with this product and i need something to run aluminum wire. Will one of these suitcase welders work? i know to tig weld aluminum HFAC is preffered..... whats the hook up procedure for aluminum mig? AC? DC? Reverse polarity or straight? thanks in advance



    jerry

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    NO your welder is a CC Constant Current you need a CV Constant Voltage machine so no matter what you hook up it won't work....Bob

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    • #3
      Originally posted by aametalmaster View Post
      NO your welder is a CC Constant Current you need a CV Constant Voltage machine so no matter what you hook up it won't work....Bob
      The catalog says the suitcase 8rc and 12rc are for cv machines but the suitcase x-treme 8vs and 12vs is a cc/cv compatible machine


      thanks again
      jerry

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jerrybigbird View Post
        The catalog says the suitcase 8rc and 12rc are for cv machines but the suitcase x-treme 8vs and 12vs is a cc/cv compatible machine


        thanks again
        jerry
        Sorry my bad. I do remember reading that but i don't really know about them. Bob

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        • #5
          So now if the feeder works with your machine you will be welding Aluminum without a spool gun. Thats a whole nuther problem...Bob

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          • #6
            Originally posted by aametalmaster View Post
            So now if the feeder works with your machine you will be welding Aluminum without a spool gun. Thats a whole nuther problem...Bob

            actually a guy can buy superglaze er-4043 or er5356 in .030 and .035 diameters by the 1lb, 16lb and 20lb roll. they are both dcep wires.......why would i want a spool gun????????? arguments please
            Last edited by jerrybigbird; 11-03-2012, 05:21 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jerrybigbird View Post
              why would i want a spool gun????????? arguments please
              Pushing .030 alum wire in any flavor thru a long mig gun is an art in itself. Ever welded aluminum before? Just wondering....Bob

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              • #8
                been welding for about 15 years but i really dont have any experience with aluminum........thats why i showed up here

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                • #9
                  Extremely difficult to weld AL with a standard mig gun,not that it can't be done. It's just that you'll go through more wire (trash) than the actual weld. I don't recommend it without a spool gun.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                    Extremely difficult to weld AL with a standard mig gun,not that it can't be done. It's just that you'll go through more wire (trash) than the actual weld. I don't recommend it without a spool gun.

                    whats it do ??????knot up before it hits the liner?

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                    • #11
                      Pushing aluminum through a 10+ft hose doesn't work well. I wonder If there is a push pull gun you can use with the feeders you listed that were compatible with cc machines.

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                      • #12
                        thanks a bunch ima look into that now

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cgotto6 View Post
                          Pushing aluminum through a 10+ft hose doesn't work well. I wonder If there is a push pull gun you can use with the feeders you listed that were compatible with cc machines.
                          Well, if you think welding with Aluminum with a mig gun is bad, try welding Aluminum with a CC only unit and a mig gun. If you can picture a mile of Alum wire in the garbage, and 2" of weld, you would be about right!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jerrybigbird View Post
                            whats it do ??????knot up before it hits the liner?

                            Knot up before it hits the linner, knot up in the liner, burn back contantly at the tip. A soon as there is a little bend in the gun liner, with slips and knots up.

                            Forget about it.

                            Besides as I mentioned in my last post. Aluminum won't even start on CC. You first need a CV machine.

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                            • #15
                              can i weld aluminum with a miller suitcase x-treme 8vs and 12vs?

                              Cruizer is right!!! Tried it many many years ago with a SP-200 & 10 ft cable. Got it to weld but more like 2 mile wire for 2 inch weld. Invest ur money on something that will work.

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