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Where is my "Made in USA" label on my Dynasty700?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by shovelon View Post
    Yes! I got me some labels now.

    Those are some mighty fine looking decals you have there... You know when I think of it I could smell some sweet n sour pork when I unboxed my dynasty... I'm on to you Miller

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    • #32
      made????

      today, copy cats are everwere. from sunglasses to parts on a jet. it's so hard to control. i start with simply asking,and look at serial #s.no quick fix on that.

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      • #33
        Our machines are designed and manufactured in Appleton, Wis. Our manufacturing processes have not changed, but the FTC closely regulates the use of the phrase “Made in the U.S.A.,” and the guidelines have become more stringent. Miller uses a guideline that a product must meet a 95 percent level of U.S. components before we will label it as “Made in the U.S.A.” Almost all complex manufactured products contain many small components that are not of U.S. origin.

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        • #34
          Where is my "Made in USA" label on my Dynasty700?

          Guess I just figured out why they fail still 5% made else where

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Miller Welders View Post
            Our machines are designed and manufactured in Appleton, Wis. Our manufacturing processes have not changed, but the FTC closely regulates the use of the phrase “Made in the U.S.A.,” and the guidelines have become more stringent. Miller uses a guideline that a product must meet a 95 percent level of U.S. components before we will label it as “Made in the U.S.A.” Almost all complex manufactured products contain many small components that are not of U.S. origin.
            That's OK. I will get over it. I kind of feel special that I got one of those crossover machines.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by shovelon View Post
              That's OK. I will get over it. I kind of feel special that I got one of those crossover machines.
              Yes , a hybrid if you will.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by beazy125 View Post
                Yes , a hybrid if you will.
                Mutant?

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                • #38
                  My Dynasty 350 says Made in USA on the face of the machine in the top left corner.

                  This brings me to a subject that burns my ass up and that's being forced to buy more and more products outside our borders by our own government! If I understand what the Miller Rep said in this thread the Government has strict guidelines about the words ( Made in USA ) if a machine contains components that were made outside our borders the words Made in USA can't be used? or at best have to be used with strict rules..... This is once again our country laying down and allowing the rest of the world to exercise an*l S*x on us! I don't know about anyone else but I'm pretty Da*n sick of America or at least the people elected to represent us as a whole laying down and allowing this country to be walked all over by the rest of the world!

                  So I'm thinking about the process of buying goods outside the borders of our country and why our own government would want us to do this and it all hit and made sense. Last year I purchased some motorcycle body panels from a supplier in Japan that was the only company in the world that had these parts. I can live with that given the situation. A couple of months later I get a bill from the US Government for TAX due on the purchase. I'm thinking this is not only out of state it's out of the country for Christs sake and NOT for resale. So I made a call to ask WTF? I was told that every purchase we make mail order that we currently get by without paying tax on is coming to an END SOONER THAN LATER! That's right they are putting laws into effect that will track and collect tax on everything. I was told it's been that way for many years but they simply couldn't track the purchases and the sellers weren't complying with reporting them but that is ending soon.. So the US Government forced us basically into a global economy and the main reason is ----------------------> MORE TAX !!! They will collect tax more times on the same purchase so it's a winning deal for the SHORT SIGHTED IDIOTS in Washington !! Our country is out of control and no longer being governed by officials that are looking out for American's citizens like it once was. Greed and lack of compassion for our fellow man is the reason behind this clearly. If trade was taxed and equal from one country to the next along with every countries citizens being treated equally and paid an equal and fair salary that allows them to live a life style that no longer sees poverty and people living in less than acceptable conditions I would see no real problem with doing business with our neighbors but we all know that's simply not the case. Child labor, Poverty, and worst of all companies that move from our shores foreign soil to evade the EPA that protects us all from these companies destroying the environment all in the name of profit! I see no help for the situation until mother earth cleanses it'self of us all in one huge display of ENOUGH!

                  I realize this post strays from the topic of -------> Made in America on a welding machines face... But not really because those words mean so much more than the spot on the planet where something is bolted together.. Made in USA means -------------> Made in a place where we are doing at least something to protect the planet and the humans that live here along with the original inhabitants the wild life that are being destroyed in the name of profit and greed! That's what I see when I read Made in USA printed on a label what do you guys see? We simply got to realize we are all eating from the same bowl and drinking from the same cup. Destroying the world no matter what the position on the global map it lays can not be allowed to continue... Sorry for the rant but this subject really stripes my ass!
                  Last edited by Gunner12R; 02-21-2013, 05:26 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Gunnr, you are looking at it wrong. First of all nobody is walking over america. (it's actually the opposite). Second this is globalization, get used to it. The world has grown way too much and economies have become far too complex to keep things "within our own borders." There are many benefits to things the way they are.
                    Last edited by regal2800; 02-21-2013, 10:40 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by regal2800 View Post
                      Gunnr, you are looking at it wrong. First of all nobody is walking over america. (it's actually the opposite). Second this is globalization, get used to it. The world has grown way too much and economies have become far too complex to keep things "within our own borders." There are many benefits to things the way they are.
                      I had a much longer post but I think a much shorter one will do the job.. Please take it upon yourself to tell us all the advantages to our current position in the world economy because I'm just not seeing any as I look around in all directions at BROKE people to go along with this BROKE and in DEBT country. This should prove to be a interesting read

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                      • #41
                        I dont know what your personal condition is, but most americans dont know how good they have it. you think they have it better in portugal, ireland, italy, greece, spain? What about china, you think living conditions are better over there?

                        Most of the western world is recovering from a major financial mess. The economic problems we are facing here has nothing to do with "other countries walking over us."

                        i can get into the technicals but this is not the place for that. Just dont be so quick to judge Miller for outsourcing or foreigners for problems here at home. I will leave it at that.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by regal2800 View Post

                          i can get into the technicals but this is not the place for that. Just dont be so quick to judge Miller for outsourcing or foreigners for problems here at home. I will leave it at that.
                          What a complete COP OUT ! You spout off about all these advantages and when ask to name them you give this BS? Just like every other idiot that buys into whatever they are told. Reminds me of my neighbor when she told me she was voting for Obama last year.. I looked her dead in the eye and said " Tell me exactly what he's in the last 4 years that's helped America?" Her reply was exactly the same as yours------------------------------> A STUPID look and silence! Step it up big man and tell us all about the bright future America is facing and while you're at it if you don't care to answer one question. You voted for Obama didn't you?

                          America has been taking it in the tail since the day Bill Clinton signed NAFTA in 1992 and it's been down hill for this country since. People like you Sir that swallow the BS you are fed and told it's steak and good for you are why these criminals in office continue to drive this country into the ground. You believe every lie you're told and you think this country was built on acts of kindness instead of the backs and blood of soldiers. You bask in the freedom they died to supply and curse the way they provided it.. If you want to have the same living conditions as all those places you named just keep kissing their tail and I promise you it will happen. 3 generations living under the same roof and poverty like you never dreamed is EXACTLY where America is headed thanks to these people you support... As for Miller or any other company that outsources jobs to 3rd world nations if they build them there they need to live there and sell them there. Don't keep your corporate op here so all your CEO's can live here while your work force are slave labor. Step it up or step off

                          As for me and my personal conditions..... This isn't about me or my personal conditions where did you get that BS? This is about this country and the downward direction it's headed in and being smart enough to understand what's fueling it verses someone like you that has no answers when ask to support your position.
                          Last edited by Gunner12R; 02-27-2013, 07:15 PM.

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                          • #43
                            First of all, calm down. this is just a discussion. Second, this is a welding forum not a political forum which is why i am hesitant to even reply.

                            Study the subprime lending market. Also study derivatives (Regulated and unregulated), Credit Default Swaps (CDS) in particular and how that ties into the housing market which crashed. This game is global Gunner. It's major economies, major heavy duty companies which are global getting tied together. It is like a domino, when one fails it can take out everything with it. Remember in 08 when everyone was complaining about the bail out and the slogan "too big to fail"? why do you think the government nationalized the biggest banks? Why did the ECB (european central bank) bail out the Euro?

                            As far as obama goes, i actually didn't vote for him at all. (in 08 or in 12) But Obama had nothing to do with this crash. If you want to blame someone blame Greenspan, Sommer, Geithner etc.

                            Miller is doing what every major company is doing to cut cost and maintain quality. You know apple computers are built in china? And i will say it again, nobody is screwing the US. We are by far the dominant force in this world and it is the US controlling the shots globally.

                            To other members of this thread i apologize for going off topic. Gunner if you want PM me to continue this debate.

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                            • #44
                              Unfortunetly something like 60% of the parts for the big 3 automakers in the US are made overseas...What's today's definition of "Made in the USA"?

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                              • #45
                                FTC Guidelines for "Made in the USA"

                                According to the Federal Trade Commission, in order for a product to qualify as "Made in the USA" it must,

                                "be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions. What does "all or virtually all" mean?
                                "All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.
                                "

                                For more on this topic, visit their website: http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bu...e-usa-standard

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