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    Different Miller Thunderbolt XL found. It's an AC / DC unit. A few years old but here is a picture. Diff. question for you all this time though! What would you pay for it if the leads were missing - stinger/ground clamp vs what would you pay for it complete!

    my target is $200 but would be willing to go with $250 - no leads under $200 - is that ridiculous?!

    Thanks,
    John
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    Miller Thunderbolt 225 AC/DC
    Millermatic 211 Auto/MVP

  • #2
    A nice one just sold on ebay for $300 another one for $400. This one the case is kinda beat up. Make sure it works. Is it missing just the ground & stinger or the cables also? Depending on the size cable is about $2.00/3.00 a foot I think plus another $20/25 each for a work clamp & electrode holder. That will add up quick.
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    • #3
      Yep, that's the welder you're looking for.
      It looks like the leads are on it. If all you need is the stinger and ground clamp you should be able to get those for under $50.00 easy.

      Make sure it works! plug it in and check it in each position. If there's nothing on the ends of the leads just fire it up and smack the two ends of the leads together quickly. If it makes sparks it's working. IMO, $200-250 is a reasonable and fair price.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ihctractor View Post
        Yep, that's the welder you're looking for.
        It looks like the leads are on it. If all you need is the stinger and ground clamp you should be able to get those for under $50.00 easy.

        Make sure it works! plug it in and check it in each position. If there's nothing on the ends of the leads just fire it up and smack the two ends of the leads together quickly. If it makes sparks it's working. IMO, $200-250 is a reasonable and fair price.
        Great. Thanks - I am feeling good about this one. I think that getting to $250 ought not to be a problem - esp. if I have to get the stinger and and clamp. The leads are there - I was given a picture of a connector at the end of the lead. So - is that going to be like touching the ends of some jumper cables - with the ends smacking together...?

        Now - if he can find the stinger and ground clamp - firing it up and not having any rods to run - same 'general' test? just touching the stinger metal to something else metal for a spark?
        Miller Thunderbolt 225 AC/DC
        Millermatic 211 Auto/MVP

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MMW View Post
          A nice one just sold on ebay for $300 another one for $400. This one the case is kinda beat up. Make sure it works. Is it missing just the ground & stinger or the cables also? Depending on the size cable is about $2.00/3.00 a foot I think plus another $20/25 each for a work clamp & electrode holder. That will add up quick.
          Thx. I'm pretty sure he'll find the stinger/clamp. Else - it comes off the negotiated price in my opinion. Hoping to hear back some positive news tonight about it....
          Miller Thunderbolt 225 AC/DC
          Millermatic 211 Auto/MVP

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          • #6
            Certainly hope that wasn't a Craigslist ad...gone by now.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by jfk92 View Post
              So - is that going to be like touching the ends of some jumper cables - with the ends smacking together...?
              ...... firing it up and not having any rods to run - same 'general' test?
              Yes! Nice thing about transformer units is they either work or they don't, no in between. If the unit is complete and it makes sparks, it's a working unit.
              BTW if the welder is on, the fan should be running.

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              • #8
                Hi John where is the welder located? We can hook up my leeds and run some beads if you like to. Call me if you want to do this i'll bring some rods.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JMK WELDING View Post
                  Hi John where is the welder located? We can hook up my leeds and run some beads if you like to. Call me if you want to do this i'll bring some rods.
                  Thanks for the offer Joe - but I'll be picking this welder up out of state hopefully this weekend while on a little trip. So far it all looks good - welder still available and should the leads not be found have agreed to a lower price. The unit is getting tested tonight - and I expect to run it at the time of purchase too.
                  Miller Thunderbolt 225 AC/DC
                  Millermatic 211 Auto/MVP

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                  • #10
                    Pick up the cheap harbor freight ground clamp and stinger. Take them with and put them on. You can always take them back.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by WyoRoy View Post
                      Certainly hope that wasn't a Craigslist ad...gone by now.
                      .....yeah....turns out it is gone......fortunately it's in THIS GUY's garage now! LOL! Picked it up - have the stinger and ground clamp - brand new - think the seller got some spare's off his 'current mechanic' - also threw in the hand cart it was bolted to - although I had to chop off the bolts to separate the two and put in my sedan! Anyway -- pleased with the purchase - it's in great condition..feel like I won or at least came out even on this one...thx for all the feedback.
                      Miller Thunderbolt 225 AC/DC
                      Millermatic 211 Auto/MVP

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                      • #12
                        Glad you got it. Best of luck with it.
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                        22a feeder
                        Lincoln ac/dc 225
                        Victor O/A
                        MM200 black face
                        Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
                        Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
                        Arco roto-phase model M
                        Vectrax 7x12 band saw
                        Miller spectrum 875
                        30a spoolgun w/wc-24
                        Syncrowave 250
                        RCCS-14

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                        • #13
                          Excellent ! I have a 1989 acdc thunderbolt and I love it.

                          I put a real cooling fan in it and cut out an inlet for the fan in the side panel and put a screen over the inlet and it blows a bunch of air through the welder. The fan thing they come with is pretty lame.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by davo727 View Post
                            Excellent ! I have a 1989 acdc thunderbolt and I love it.

                            I put a real cooling fan in it and cut out an inlet for the fan in the side panel and put a screen over the inlet and it blows a bunch of air through the welder. The fan thing they come with is pretty lame.
                            Nice to hear. Good tip - I do hope to get as much use/need for this modification as possible! lol. My first task is going to welding some cable hooks and a stick box on the hand truck that was thrown in with the welder for use! Just ordered a 5# box of 6010 rods last night from cyberweld.com here in jersey! downloaded a manual for it from this website...now I just have to run a circuit in my garage for it from my sub panel!
                            Miller Thunderbolt 225 AC/DC
                            Millermatic 211 Auto/MVP

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