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    Anyone have any input on the best brands of plasmas out there? Like miller, but never used any other brands. Thanks!!!

  • #2
    That question may just have been answered more times than the Internet has capacity to hold. Try the search feature at the top of the page!
    Miller 251...sold the spoolgun to DiverBill.
    Miller DialArc 250
    Lincoln PrecisionTig 275
    Hypertherm 900 plasma cutter
    Bridgeport "J" head mill...tooled up
    Jet 14 X 40 lathe...ditto
    South Bend 9" lathe...yeah, got the change gears too
    Logan 7" shaper
    Ellis 3000 band saw
    Hossfeld bender w/shopbuilt hyd.
    Victor Journeyman torch and gauges
    3 Gerstner boxes of mostly Starrett tools
    Lots of dust bunnies
    Too small of a shop at 40 X 59.

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    • #3
      Click here.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Helios View Post
        Thats good...Bob
        Bob Wright

        Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
        http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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        • #5
          My money goes to Hypertherm for anything plasma related. I've had a PM 1000 G3 for about 5 years and it has never failed to make the cut every time I pulled the trigger or hit start on my plasma table. I'll never go to any other vendor, ever.
          Bob

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          • #6
            as much as I love my Miller welders...and.... believe they are the best in the world...

            my money for the best plasma cutter still goes to Hypertherm....

            my Hypertherm Powermax 1000.... has been flawless for the last several years...

            would buy another in an instant....(was a perfect match for my PlasmaCam CNC)

            search old threads... on the subject, see what others say...
            Last edited by H80N; 08-19-2012, 03:12 PM.
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            • #7
              Also important, at least for me,,,, was how much local support / availability of consumables was. I checked thru three states, southern Oregon; Reno, Nevada; Yerington Nevada; and my local area. Ended up buying a Thermal Dynamics,,,,,,,

              For me, that was the "best fit". No point in buying the "best" if you have to wait two weeks for parts.
              Obviously, I'm just a hack-artist, you shouldn't be listening to anything I say .....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JSFAB View Post
                Also important, at least for me,,,, was how much local support / availability of consumables was. I checked thru three states, southern Oregon; Reno, Nevada; Yerington Nevada; and my local area. Ended up buying a Thermal Dynamics,,,,,,,

                For me, that was the "best fit". No point in buying the "best" if you have to wait two weeks for parts.
                What ol' Joe says!

                When I purchased my Hypertherm I wanted to buy locally. After my favored welding supply informed me they didn't carry the Hypertherm line and suggested I order online I drove across town to my non-favored welding supply to check on their pricing. While waiting 30 minutes for the counterman to figure up his "best price" (his words, not mine) he came back with a price that turned out to be $650 more than what I could order one online for. Calling around I found a welding supply up in Whitefish, MT that would send one down to me with free shipping and no sales tax. The added benefits of free shipping and no sales tax more or less added another $15-$175 incentive to give them the sale. BTW, I often buy my consumables from the non-favored welding supply and let them know they missed out on a sale through one of their sales staff's greed.
                Miller 251...sold the spoolgun to DiverBill.
                Miller DialArc 250
                Lincoln PrecisionTig 275
                Hypertherm 900 plasma cutter
                Bridgeport "J" head mill...tooled up
                Jet 14 X 40 lathe...ditto
                South Bend 9" lathe...yeah, got the change gears too
                Logan 7" shaper
                Ellis 3000 band saw
                Hossfeld bender w/shopbuilt hyd.
                Victor Journeyman torch and gauges
                3 Gerstner boxes of mostly Starrett tools
                Lots of dust bunnies
                Too small of a shop at 40 X 59.

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                • #9
                  I like that, buying related items at non liked lws. Hypertherme or thermal dynamics are the way to go, although, i am prejudice, the 2 companies are an hour drive from my shop

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                  • #10
                    Why do you guys like the Hypertherm so much? How is it better than the Spectrum 625 X-Treme? Other than being less expensive.
                    Lincoln Vantage 400
                    Trailblazer® 302 Air Pak™

                    Miller Dynasty® 350
                    Millermatic 350P Aluminum
                    Millermatic® 252
                    Syncrowave 351
                    Lincoln LN-25 Pro

                    Multimatic™ 200

                    XR-Aluma Pro Gun
                    Diversion™ 180

                    Spectrum® 625 X-TREME™

                    Thermal Dynamics® Cutmaster® 52
                    Victor Oxy/Acetylene Set

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kvwall View Post
                      Why do you guys like the Hypertherm so much? How is it better than the Spectrum 625 X-Treme? Other than being less expensive.
                      Hypertherm systems consistently outperform the competition in cut quality, productivity, and operating costs.

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                      • #12
                        I'm not sure how you are able to say that Hypertherm can outperform Miller. And when was the last time you did a side by side comparison? For several years Miller was buying thier torches from Hypertherm so the quality and performance of the torches is the same. So if it then comes down to the power source, it has been suggested about a million times on this blog that Miller has always built the best power sources.
                        Have you had a chance to try Miller's new XT torches which are not made by Hypertherm? I have be using the 375 Xtreme with the XT30 torch and will put that up against the Powermax 30 any day, every day.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Badger_Fan View Post
                          I'm not sure how you are able to say that Hypertherm can outperform Miller. And when was the last time you did a side by side comparison? For several years Miller was buying thier torches from Hypertherm so the quality and performance of the torches is the same. So if it then comes down to the power source, it has been suggested about a million times on this blog that Miller has always built the best power sources.
                          Have you had a chance to try Miller's new XT torches which are not made by Hypertherm? I have be using the 375 Xtreme with the XT30 torch and will put that up against the Powermax 30 any day, every day.
                          Nice machines.

                          But my Hypertherms can use the patented FineCut technology. The chrome plated nozzle last up to 5 times longer than conventional bare nozzles. Maybe by the time the Chinese put Hypertherm out of biz, Miller plasmas will have caught up.
                          Nothing welded, Nothing gained

                          Miller Dynasty700DX
                          3 ea. Miller Dynasty350DX
                          Miller Dynasty200DX
                          ThermalArc 400 GTSW
                          MillerMatic350P
                          MillerMatic200 with spoolgun
                          MKCobraMig260
                          Lincoln SP-170T
                          Linde UCC305 (sold 2011)
                          Hypertherm 1250
                          Hypertherm 800
                          PlasmaCam CNC cutter
                          Fadal Toolroom CNC Mill
                          SiberHegner CNC Mill
                          2 ea. Bridgeport
                          LeBlond 15" Lathe
                          Haberle 18" Cold Saw
                          Doringer 14" Cold Saw
                          6 foot x 12 foot Mojave granite

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                          • #14
                            I to was asking myself wich to buy about 2 mos. ago I was going to go blue of course due to the high quality and never letting me down for many yrs. now, however I recently went to a trade show where my current weld store was there and I DID use both the miller and the hypertherm side by side and found there was no difference in performance. With that being said this where my MILLER sales rep informed me that hypertherm holds ALL the patends on plasmas ,so basicaly everyone is putting there parts inside a different color sheet metal (what ever that may be) and putting there name on it. So the bottom line is all the internals came from hypertherm. So why would you go to the student when you can go right to the teacher sort of the thing.

                            This was just my experience not saying its right or wrong, however I can tell you there is a new hypertherm sitting under my miller tig and my miller mig and i am totaly satisfied with all three of them! Good luck

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                            • #15
                              Your Miller salesman is a moron, and yes a plasma of the same amperage, will cut about the same as any other brand. The guts may be totally different but the end result is the same. Its the cut quality, the reliability, and consumable life that counts.

                              There are zero hypertherm parts in other brands, can't really patent theory, how a salesman comes up with this crap is beyond me.

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