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    Hello,

    I've heard of a machine that does the same thing as pickling chemicals. I'm at a new place of employment where stainless steel is being pickled constantly and am looking for information on a machine that can do the same as the acid chemicals.

    Anyone know of the name of this machine or the company that produces them?

    Thanks.
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  • #2
    Vlassic?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by monte55 View Post
      Vlassic?
      Heinz?

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      • #4
        It sure would be nice if you gave us a clue as to what SPECIFICLY you are you talking about...

        are you talking a nitric acid pickle like in the passivation of stainless steel??? or a phosphoric acid electropolish?? sparex??? cyanide??


        and as an alternative are you proposing a mechanical cleaning like a dynabrade dry blast cabinet, scotchbrite flapwheels?? or a caustic soda electro etch strip cleaning??? or maybe cosmic rays??

        please give us some more info.... your question as asked is so vague as to be nonsensical....

        Well?????????????????????

        Help us out here with some more info... the poll is stupid as it stands...
        Last edited by H80N; 04-25-2012, 01:38 PM.
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        • #5
          I've tried pickling eggs, cabbage and cucumbers but never stainless steel......sounds delicious!

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          • #6
            Electrical weld cleaner was wha i was looking for.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by custom969 View Post
              Electrical weld cleaner was wha i was looking for.
              Like??

              could you enlighten us a little more?? with a few more details or examples???

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              • #8
                I like the dilly beans.

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                • #9
                  Who's dilly
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                  • #10
                    Just for those who don't know, "pickling" stainless is a process to chemically remove welding stains from the work. Obviously, the previous respondents to this thread don't have a clue. Obviously, the previous respondents have no business responding to a purely technical question such as this, since they have no clue. The OP is looking for an electical way to accomplish the same thing, I'd respond but I know no more about this than most of the smart-asses here, and not about to stick my foot in my mouth. I am more than willing to hear from somebody who knows something about this.
                    Last edited by JSFAB; 04-25-2012, 06:29 PM.
                    Obviously, I'm just a hack-artist, you shouldn't be listening to anything I say .....

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JSFAB View Post
                      Just for those who don't know, "pickling" stainless is a process to chemically remove welding stains from the work. Obviously, the previous respondents to this thread don't have a clue. Obviously, the previous respondents have no business responding to a purely technical question such as this, since they have no clue. The OP is looking for an electical way to accomplish the same thing, I'd respond but I know no more about this than most of the smart-asses here, and not about to stick my foot in my mouth. I am more than willing to hear from somebody who knows something about this.
                      Oh Really??

                      Look up Passivation, Pickling and Electropolish of stainless steel... THEN get back to us..........

                      you could start here....

                      http://elkhornelectropolish.com/passivation.php
                      Last edited by H80N; 04-25-2012, 06:59 PM.
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                      • #12
                        And check out http://www.delstar.com alot of info on pickling.

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                        • #13
                          thx for the defence

                          The answere i was looking for was Electrical weld cleaner and i found a specific machine at the following site. I'm waiting on a responce from customer service (i want a demo video to see if it can handle 16" pipe all day long). Let yas know how it goes.

                          http://www.capitalweldcleaners.com/?...FWcHRQodiX5oEw

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                          • #14
                            NOT Chemical Free!!

                            Originally posted by custom969 View Post
                            The answere i was looking for was Electrical weld cleaner and i found a specific machine at the following site. I'm waiting on a responce from customer service (i want a demo video to see if it can handle 16" pipe all day long). Let yas know how it goes.

                            http://www.capitalweldcleaners.com/?...FWcHRQodiX5oEw
                            now we have something to work with........ but this process is hardly "Chemical Free"..... it relies on "Phosphoric Acid" and electricity to electroclean weld areas....

                            this is chemically and electrically a spot "Electropolish" procedure.... this scheme has been around for a very long time... it involves Acid and Electricity and can be pretty messy..
                            We tried it for weld cleaning in a large shop that made 304 SS cleanroom furnishings for the semiconductor fab indusrty.... for our purposes anyway it was not practical.... we ended up leaving that step to our electropolish contractor..
                            wet corrosive chemicals mixed with electricity on the shopfloor were not a good solution for us...

                            If you want more info on this approach here is a search link..

                            http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...fr=yfp-t-701-s

                            BTW... I cannot blame the guys for making a little fun.... try to ask a more specific question next time and you will get a more focused response... nobody wants to try and guess what a poster "Really Means" when they ask a vague question... there are a LOT of very knowledgable folks here that are willing to share their knowledge...... none that I am aware of are mindreaders....
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                            Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

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                            • #15
                              As you explore this approach, pay particular attention to the cost of "cleaning solution".... the additional cost and manpower of a dedicated wet cleaning area where the cleaning process can take place, then corrosive residue solution can be rinsed off and neutralized.... be skeptical of any claims that this process is easily done at the weld station..... we found that not to be the case in a production environment...

                              ALSO.... many of the "Cleaning Machines" are lightly modified chinese inverter welders... with all of the problems built in.... make sure that the supplier can certify where the power supply is actually manufactured... not packaged or labeled.... just sayin....
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                              *******************************************
                              The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                              “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                              Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                              My Blue Stuff:
                              Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                              Dynasty 200DX
                              Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                              Millermatic 200

                              TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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