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  • Spoolmate 100 tip problems?

    I got spoolmate 100 on a 211. No problems with the 211 but the spoolmate is a different story! After a short while of welding aluminum the wire burns to the tip. Usually on start or restart. I am using 4043 .030 wire. Tried a .035 tip, reduced weld time, and changed voltage and wire speed. Clipped the ball on the wire on every start or restart. Wire brushed the work with a stainless steel wire brush everytime. These tips are like 9 bucks for five around here and when you go through 1 or 2 tips a job it gets expensive. I tried different distances of stickout changed the argon flow. Around 20 cfh is what I have been running the flow. It dont matter what thickness of material I am welding it still does it. Any ideas? I read somewhere on the forum that another member made a adapter and is using different tips on his spoolmate 100? I am at a loss on this one!

    Steve
    Dont force it, use a BIGGER hammer.

    Linde VI-252C and Linde wire feeder.
    Hobart Cyberwave 300c.
    HH 140.
    Miller Big 40.
    Lincoln SAE 200J.
    Hobart GR-303.
    Lincoln tombstone welder.
    TD Cutmaster 52.
    Hobart Stickmate.
    Miller 211 w/ Spoolgun.
    Lincoln SA 200.

  • #2
    Have to use special AL tips when using AL, ay for 030 wire the tips are actually 033.

    Can't really use 030 as the wire will pert near stop at the tip when the wire is hot, tough to use 035 as the wire comes out twirly, and tough to control

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    • #3
      Cruizer,
      Miller part# 186406 is the tips I have been using. Those are .035 tips. #186419 is the .030 tips. It burns off right end of the tip and welds itself to the inside. Its alot worse if you use .030 tip with .030 wire!

      Steve
      Dont force it, use a BIGGER hammer.

      Linde VI-252C and Linde wire feeder.
      Hobart Cyberwave 300c.
      HH 140.
      Miller Big 40.
      Lincoln SAE 200J.
      Hobart GR-303.
      Lincoln tombstone welder.
      TD Cutmaster 52.
      Hobart Stickmate.
      Miller 211 w/ Spoolgun.
      Lincoln SA 200.

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      • #4
        to help out on lossing so many tips get a tip drill it comes with about 10 sizes of drill bits inside the handle . they are great for cleaning out cutting tips and work pretty good on aluminum spool gun tips too.my spool mate gun burns back sometimes and i just drill out the tip and get back at it again. if you can't find the tip drill at the welding store you can use a dremel drill bit .they come in some small sizes too but you have to use manual labor to drill it and not the dremel tool because that thing will spin that bit fast.use a tap and die holder to put the bit into and drill it out.

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        • #5
          Just had a looksee, problem is that these Chinese spoolguns don't appear to use oversize tips for AL. So I guess the best thing would to make sure that the tip is recessed 1/8" in the nozzle.

          My guess is that the engineers were thinking that these guns wouldn't get used on a long pass because of the extra short duty cycles of the power sources.

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          • #6
            The whole problem is the tip. The nose of it is too small for the heat. I have a conversion to change them to the regular Miller mig tip and the problem is solved. I can run .035 alum all day thru a standard .030 mig tip with zero issues. I can fix your nozzle to fit the bigger tips...Bob
            http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48
            Bob Wright

            Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
            http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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            • #7
              I thought Miller was made here in the states?

              Chinese spoolguns eh! So, Bob, you used your existing nozzle and cut it down and drilled and tapped it? I agree with you on the tip being the problem! It doesnt matter if its a 2 inch weld or a 4 inch weld after awhile you better be looking at the tip. I did notice that the very end of the tip turns dark color like oxidized copper color to almost black. It just dawned on me that the heating and cooling cycle of the tip is shrinking the hole that the wire goes through.

              Steve
              Dont force it, use a BIGGER hammer.

              Linde VI-252C and Linde wire feeder.
              Hobart Cyberwave 300c.
              HH 140.
              Miller Big 40.
              Lincoln SAE 200J.
              Hobart GR-303.
              Lincoln tombstone welder.
              TD Cutmaster 52.
              Hobart Stickmate.
              Miller 211 w/ Spoolgun.
              Lincoln SA 200.

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              • #8
                I did mine after reading Bobs post some time ago, worked great.

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                • #9
                  i had the same problem using standard tips on my 30a but cured it by get alum tips for it.
                  miller 225 bobcat
                  miller aead200le (with miller hf tig trailer mounted)
                  mm175, mm211, TA181i
                  mm252 w/30a spool gun
                  precision tig 225
                  hobart stickmate LX ac/dc
                  Speedglas 9100X & XX / Miller Digital Elite
                  hypertherm 380 & cutmaster 52
                  victor journeyman & super range
                  ridgid chop saw, kalamazoo band saw
                  steel max and evolution carbide saws
                  6 4.5" & a 20lb 9" rockwell grinders
                  case 580 backhoe (for what i can"t lift)
                  if first you don't succeed
                  trash the b#####d

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                  • #10
                    I use the FAT tips from Profax....They are like 5/16 diameter...They are too short for the miller gun but if you make an adaptor extension they work well and have enough bulk so they don't overheat and sieze up.Good luck...

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                    • #11
                      Those particular spoolguns are made in china

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aametalmaster View Post
                        The whole problem is the tip. The nose of it is too small for the heat. I have a conversion to change them to the regular Miller mig tip and the problem is solved. I can run .035 alum all day thru a standard .030 mig tip with zero issues. I can fix your nozzle to fit the bigger tips...Bob
                        http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48
                        This looks like the simple elegeant solution I would hope to find. I may try it on my 3035. Thank you for taking the time to spell it out. It seems simple when somebody tells you how. LOL.

                        Thanks for spelling it out for us welding dummies.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bob La Londe View Post
                          This looks like the simple elegeant solution I would hope to find. I may try it on my 3035. Thank you for taking the time to spell it out. It seems simple when somebody tells you how. LOL.

                          Thanks for spelling it out for us welding dummies.
                          Nah you aren't dumb but i think someone who engineered the gun is. Oh well it took me some thinking to see what needed changed and that change worked great...Bob
                          Bob Wright

                          Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
                          http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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                          • #14
                            I would love to have my converted

                            What such a fine improvement set you back for metal masters

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sharkm View Post
                              What such a fine improvement set you back for metal masters
                              Just send me your inner barrel tube and i will do it...Bob
                              Bob Wright

                              Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
                              http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

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