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  • #16
    Originally posted by Wicked one View Post
    I asked a simple question , not to start a fight. I had a Pipepro 304 and it was a piece of junk! A lemon so to speak. I bought a Pipeliner 200d 10 times the machine MY Pipepro was. That said the Pipeliner 200d that I own doesn't work as well as I would like it to. I am looking to enhance it's weldability. Even though my pipeliner 200d doesn't work as well as I want it to it does and will burn rod faster than a Pipepro 304. I just want to know if anyone has tried the Fowler parts I don't want a debate what color is better if that's what you want to do start your own post.
    So what???? It's an open forum, anybody and everybody can answer, just because you asked a question, doesn't give you carte blanche (a little french there) to decide who can and cannot answer in a thread you started.
    Obviously, I'm just a hack-artist, you shouldn't be listening to anything I say .....

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    • #17
      Originally posted by sae350 View Post
      . What did miller have in 1946-2000 that could even compare to an sa-200? NOTHING! So if your going to compare, atleast compare apples to apples.
      They had the 1st generation Big 40, good machine, even had 5 ranges like the sa-200. Settings were even close between the 2 machines.

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      • #18
        Years ago miller come out with the XMT304 and people didnt think anything about it except for its size, then miller put a generator behind it and called it a pipe pro, then the miller boys started saying its gods gift to welding. Millers second to no one in marketing!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Wicked one View Post
          Hey, does anyone know anything about the Fowler Mainliner Machine and parts from Hybriweld? What I'm mostly interested in is the 7 range selector and the arc force control. Thanks, Jef
          I know this is an old thread, but just thought I'd add my 2 cents.

          I have a '85 SA-250 that has Tom Fowler's Arc Force kit in it. I really like it and would recommend it to anyone. It makes welding pretty easy. You don't really notice the arc's force, but you can really tell in your rod speed.
          '08 F-350
          Vantage 400
          SA-250
          SA-200
          Invertec V350Pro
          Invertec V205T-AC/DC

          Miller 12VS suitcase
          Miller spectrum 2050

          Pipe beveler's
          Track torch

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          • #20
            I don't know any thing about these either Wicked but it has me interested. Does the fowler arc force only work on 200's or would it work on a 300 also?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by O.W.L View Post
              I don't know any thing about these either Wicked but it has me interested. Does the fowler arc force only work on 200's or would it work on a 300 also?
              It will work on any welder with Shunt Coil's. So yes.
              '08 F-350
              Vantage 400
              SA-250
              SA-200
              Invertec V350Pro
              Invertec V205T-AC/DC

              Miller 12VS suitcase
              Miller spectrum 2050

              Pipe beveler's
              Track torch

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              • #22
                Hybriweld & The Mainliner

                Anyone with questions about Hybriweld or The Fowler Mainline please contact me! I work for Tom Fowler and I build all his Fowler Mainliners for him..

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                • #23
                  Hybriweld & The Mainliner

                  Originally posted by Wicked one View Post
                  Hey, does anyone know anything about the Fowler Mainliner Machine and parts from Hybriweld? What I'm mostly interested in is the 7 range selector and the arc force control. Thanks, Jef
                  Contact me I build all of Toms Mainliners and my brother n law owns Hybriweld! I have your hook up!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by mainlinerbuilder View Post
                    Anyone with questions about Hybriweld or The Fowler Mainline please contact me! I work for Tom Fowler and I build all his Fowler Mainliners for him..

                    Cool. So how does those interested contact you? Email, PM or what?

                    Thanks,

                    HAWK

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                    • #25
                      Arc Force not working properly !!!

                      Originally posted by mainlinerbuilder View Post
                      Anyone with questions about Hybriweld or The Fowler Mainline please contact me! I work for Tom Fowler and I build all his Fowler Mainliners for him..
                      I recently had this product installed on my 67' Lincoln 200. It didn't seem to work properly from the git go. At 47 hrs it quit working !!! Amperages were down 15 or so on the load bank and were sporadic in the heat range you had to run anywhere from 35 t0 55 more on range dial to make it work. The person who installed this has run a series of tests and has found it is not up to par. Also you have to hold the rod right on your material or it would "flame out" !! The person who rebuilt my machine has called Hyper-weld several times and talked to "Peter" with no solution to my problem !! There are 3 different 200 pipeliners sitting at this shop with the same problem !!! I've paid a lotta' money for this item and to have it installed and I'm not a very "Happy Camper " !!! Is it possible that the windings or something else went wrong on the production line to produce these 3 non-producing Arc Forces to not work properly ??? they have removed mine and now it welds good. WHY?? I do know you have changed you wire supplier recently. I guess what I'm asking are you having a problem with your Arc Force Product and do I have a lemon built on Friday or Monday??

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                      • #26
                        Why bother with a 7 range unit when you can have full range with a SAE300 and be done with it.

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                        • #27
                          My Arc Force Sucks !!!!

                          I was hoping some rig hand could help me with a problem I’m having. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem ??? I recently had this Arc Force product installed on my 67' Lincoln 200. It didn't seem to work properly from the git go. At 47 hrs it quit working!!! Amperages were down 15 or so on the load bank and were sporadic in the heat range you had to run anywhere from 35 t0 55 more on range dial to make it work. The person who installed this has run a series of tests and has found it is not up to par. Also you have to hold the rod right on the pipe or it would "flame out”!! You can’t make it long arc. The person who rebuilt my machine has called Hyper-weld several times and talked to some guy named "Peter" with no solution to my problem!! Recently all they get now is voice mail or “don’t know” !! There are 3 different 200 pipeliners sitting at this shop with the same problem!!! I've paid a lotta' money for this item and to have it installed and I'm not a very "Happy Camper”!!! Is it possible that the windings or something else went wrong on the production line to produce these 3 non-producing Arc Forces to not work properly??? They have removed mine and now it welds good. WHY?? I do know you have changed you wire supplier recently. I guess what I'm asking are you having a problem with your Arc Force Product and do I have a lemon built on Friday or Monday??

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Perform53 View Post
                            I was hoping some rig hand could help me with a problem I’m having. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem ??? I recently had this Arc Force product installed on my 67' Lincoln 200. It didn't seem to work properly from the git go. At 47 hrs it quit working!!! Amperages were down 15 or so on the load bank and were sporadic in the heat range you had to run anywhere from 35 t0 55 more on range dial to make it work. The person who installed this has run a series of tests and has found it is not up to par. Also you have to hold the rod right on the pipe or it would "flame out”!! You can’t make it long arc. The person who rebuilt my machine has called Hyper-weld several times and talked to some guy named "Peter" with no solution to my problem!! Recently all they get now is voice mail or “don’t know” !! There are 3 different 200 pipeliners sitting at this shop with the same problem!!! I've paid a lotta' money for this item and to have it installed and I'm not a very "Happy Camper”!!! Is it possible that the windings or something else went wrong on the production line to produce these 3 non-producing Arc Forces to not work properly??? They have removed mine and now it welds good. WHY?? I do know you have changed you wire supplier recently. I guess what I'm asking are you having a problem with your Arc Force Product and do I have a lemon built on Friday or Monday??


                            Skip everybody in P/L World says the same thing, even long term customers from 40 years back, ie Tom had it all together, the son (and crew) doesn't.
                            NOBODY has a poor word to say about Tom, either parts or service.
                            Both, and specially service have nose dived with the kid taking over.
                            It's been a slow downward slide as Tom gradually slipped into retirement.
                            Sad but true, Tom build an empire with an impeccable reputation as a jam up 200 pipeliner guru that's pretty quickly turning into junk.
                            We've been hearing the rumblings for several years now, today it's just a no go on Fowler products in my opinion, to bad because they used to be the best you could buy.
                            Good luck with it, I'd recommend Chris's welder repair in Odessa, TX. He still runs the joint and really knows his bizness, and what parts are pipeline ready good to go.

                            J
                            Some days you eat the bear. And some days the bear eats you.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JTMcC:309060
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                              Refreshing to get good honest unobjective help on a forum.

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