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  • Need help selecting a plasma!

    Now that I got the power (100amp service) and air situation fixed in my garage... I am looking at getting a plasma cutter.

    I have looked at these three products.. I cant decide.

    1. Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52 (which if I buy before Sept. 30, I can get a FREE Victor Journeyman Torch Outfit)

    2. Miller Specturm 625 Xtreme.

    3. Hypertherm Powermax 45.

    I like the TD 52 because it is priced well, and if I act soon I can get a new torch outfit. My torch is DATED. I love the Miller product a lot. Love my Millermatic 135, and expect to upgrade to a MM 211 very soon. I dont know too much about the Powermax 45, but it is priced the highest out of them all.

    Which one has the better consumable??? Cost effective???

    Any insight would help.

    Thanks
    matt

  • #2
    Keep it T-dyne or Hypertherm, My vote is for T-dyne

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    • #3
      thermal dynamics

      i've had the cutmaster 52 about a year now with no complaints. i would recomend it to anyone.
      Matt

      Syncrowave 200
      Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52
      Victor O/A
      Smithy Midas 1220 Lathe- Mill
      Bandsaw- 20 yr old Harbor Freight type
      Speedglas

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      • #4
        I've been happy with my Powermax 380. Next upgrade for me will be the Powermax 45 to use on the truck.
        Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
        Millermatic175
        MillermaticPassport/Q300
        HTP MIG200
        PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
        ThermalArc 185ACDC, Dynaflux Tig'r, CK-20
        DialarcHF, Radiator-1
        Hypertherm PowerMax 380
        Purox oxy/ace
        Jackson EQC
        -F350 CrewCab 4x4
        -LoadNGo utility bed
        -Bobcat 250NT
        -PassportPlus/Q300
        -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
        -Suitcase8RC/Q400
        -Suitcase12RC/Q300
        -Smith oxy/propane
        -Jackson EQC

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        • #5
          I have to agree, keep with the Hyper or Thermal D. Have nothing bad to say about the Miller. But it seems that everybody, that has either of those two have little to no complaints.

          I have the Hyper 600, which was a deal when the 45 replaced it.
          I haven't used it much but what I have it is great.

          As I'm not hauling the unit around other than on a cart the weight wasn't an issue.

          Two things in addition to buying the consumables on line. That will make it a better experience.

          Clean the ground clamp and an area close to the area you are cutting of crud, paint, scum etc. So you have better electrical contact. Makes it easier, and a better cut.

          Dryer moisture free air make for longer consumables life, the steam generated at the electrode in the plasma arc wears out the consumables faster.

          In case you don't have them:
          http:
          //www.thermadyne.com/thermalarc/


          http://www.hypertherm.com/

          http://www.thermacut.info good source of info and drawing etc.

          Remember you will need good ventilation. As all most all smoke and fumes from cutting and welding are hazardous.
          And use good eye protection and proper clothing.

          http://www.bakersgas.com/HYP127103.html

          http://products.sellstrom.com/detail...sp?seriesID=58

          This is the shield that I have, It works great as I can grind and then cut with out swapping or not using anything.

          There are a couple of threads on here about the shade and shield
          glen, If your not on the edge, your wasting space

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          • #6
            I prefer the Hypertherm. I have the Powermax 1000 and it has performed beyond my expectations. A co-worker just got the Spectrum 625 and it seems to be a good machine as well, but it wont cut as smooth as advertised on the heavier material.

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            • #7
              How are the consumables for the Hypertherm compared to the Thermal Dynamics????

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              • #8
                Again the T-dyne has much longer lasting and much less expensive consumables, only real problem is with the start cartridge. Air has to be dry, dry.

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                • #9
                  Another vote for the Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52, mine works great!
                  at home:
                  2012 325 Trailblazer EFI with Excel power
                  2007 302 Trailblazer with the Robin SOLD
                  2008 Suitcase 12RC
                  Spoolmatic 30A
                  WC-24
                  2009 Dynasty 200DX
                  2000 XMT 304
                  2008 Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52
                  Sold:MM130XP
                  Sold:MM 251
                  Sold:CST 280

                  at work:
                  Invision 350MP
                  Dynasty 350
                  Millermatic 350P
                  Retired:Shopmaster 300 with a HF-251

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                  • #10
                    What is the thickest the Cutmaster 52 will do with a decent cut??? How well does it handle 1/2"??

                    A guy at the local welding shop said that he could cut up to 1 1/2" with the Cutmaster 52 they demo'd at their shop. Does this sound right??

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by shortgoroper View Post
                      What is the thickest the Cutmaster 52 will do with a decent cut??? How well does it handle 1/2"??

                      A guy at the local welding shop said that he could cut up to 1 1/2" with the Cutmaster 52 they demo'd at their shop. Does this sound right??
                      Well if it wouldn't the torch they GIVE you will

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                      • #12
                        Nope the 52 will not cut 1 1/2", the 80 amp (101) version will though

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                        • #13
                          I think I am sold on the Cutmaster 52. For the most part, 1/2" will be the biggest to work with. I just need to get my but in gear for the free torch outfit... then I will be covered for any thicker peices I encounter.

                          Thanks for your advice!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                            Again the T-dyne has much longer lasting and much less expensive consumables, only real problem is with the start cartridge. Air has to be dry, dry.
                            i just bought a used hypertherm 800 and a new air compressor..never used a plasma cutter..what is the best way to keep the air supply dry..

                            thanks
                            tom

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by t-terrible View Post
                              i just bought a used hypertherm 800 and a new air compressor..never used a plasma cutter..what is the best way to keep the air supply dry..

                              thanks
                              tom
                              I use a cannister filter/dryer at the compressor and another one right at the plasma cutter. Even then I get a little water spitting. If I had the money and space and was using the plasma a whole lot on a daily basis, I'd buy one of those a/c heat exchanger type dryers the big shops use.
                              Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
                              Millermatic175
                              MillermaticPassport/Q300
                              HTP MIG200
                              PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
                              ThermalArc 185ACDC, Dynaflux Tig'r, CK-20
                              DialarcHF, Radiator-1
                              Hypertherm PowerMax 380
                              Purox oxy/ace
                              Jackson EQC
                              -F350 CrewCab 4x4
                              -LoadNGo utility bed
                              -Bobcat 250NT
                              -PassportPlus/Q300
                              -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
                              -Suitcase8RC/Q400
                              -Suitcase12RC/Q300
                              -Smith oxy/propane
                              -Jackson EQC

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